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Old 12-31-2011, 03:52 PM  
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2012 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread
2012 Slogan: Our Time

A better, more accurate 2012 Slogan: It is Finally Next Year
(from Great Expectations)

An alternative slogan if you don't like that one: Someone has to win this crappy division
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With the beginning of a new year, it is time for the 2012 version of the Royals Repository Thread. We've got Hosmer, we've got a 2011-dominating Gordon, we've got Moose, we've got hopefully a killer bullpen, we've got a stereotypical slow slugging DH, we've got easily one of the best defensive shortstops in the AL, we've got a promising catcher in Salvador Perez. Hell, we've got offense and promising prospects galore.

We do not have starting pitching.

Oh yeah, we've also got this:



Get ready for, (as of January 2012 anyway), one of the most confusing puzzles of a baseball season in recent Royals history. Will they suck? Maybe, I don't know. Will we be given a year of 0.500 baseball? Possibly, I don't know. Will they win the division and go to the playoffs for the first time in 27 years? For the first time in a long time, it could happen, I don't know. 92 losses, 92 wins, or anything in between would not surprise a lot of us.

Everything goes here except Gameday threads and really big news. If a giant story breaks, the Royals achieve some awesome milestone, or we sign/lose a highly significant player/coach/mascot/whatever, then it might also deserve its own thread. This being Chiefs Planet, please do not clutter the board with new threads about trivial Royals news or you will only annoy those who come here for just Chiefs football. If you aren't sure and its not a Gameday thread, it goes here.

What sort of stuff often goes here? SPchief explained it well, so I'll just copy that:

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If you locate something of interest.. ANYTHING.. deals on apparel, best ways in/out of the stadium, giveaways, great stories from this season or from seasons gone by, rumors, trades, anything.... feel free to post it here.
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Old 06-21-2012, 02:00 PM   #3886
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So you guys are saying you wouldn't do a package for Felix that is Billy Butler, Cheslor Cuthbert, and one of the pitching prospects?
No.
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So you guys are saying you wouldn't do a package for Felix that is Billy Butler, Cheslor Cuthbert, and one of the pitching prospects?
I would consider a package for King Felix, but I wouldn't do one that includes Billy Butler.

Cheslor Cuthbert+Mike Montgomery+Jake Odorizzi+Jeff Francouer (to eat salary)? Yeah, I'd do that.

The Royals don't match up extremely well with the Mariners, though. The only premium bat the Royals have close (which is what the M's would want) is Wil Myers, and I don't think he's moveable.
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Old 06-21-2012, 02:10 PM   #3888
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One more note on Felix Hernandez: His average fastball velocity has dropped by 2 MPH this season.

Not a good sign. Guys who start losing speed on the fastball typically start losing break on breaking pitches and deception as well.
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Old 06-21-2012, 02:16 PM   #3889
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#Royals trade RHP Sean O'Sullivan to Toronto for cash considerations. He was 5-4, 6.75 for AAA Omaha this year


Who the heck would want Sean O'Sullivan?!?!?
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Old 06-21-2012, 02:19 PM   #3890
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#Royals trade RHP Sean O'Sullivan to Toronto for cash considerations. He was 5-4, 6.75 for AAA Omaha this year


Who the heck would want Sean O'Sullivan?!?!?
Cash considerations? They are considering giving us cash... For him it must be a decision of $100 gift card at Target or Wal-mart.
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Old 06-21-2012, 02:19 PM   #3891
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#Royals trade RHP Sean O'Sullivan to Toronto for cash considerations. He was 5-4, 6.75 for AAA Omaha this year


Who the heck would want Sean O'Sullivan?!?!?
We did at one time..
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Old 06-21-2012, 02:20 PM   #3892
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Cash considerations? They are considering giving us cash... For him it must be a decision of $100 gift card at Target or Wal-mart.
Or maybe we can just stop charging for soda in the locker room now......
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#Royals trade RHP Sean O'Sullivan to Toronto for cash considerations. He was 5-4, 6.75 for AAA Omaha this year


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King's salary this season is 19m. No thanks.
Man, Glass has trained the shit out of us.

I don't disagree with the sentiment of your post and the reality of our situation, but it's sad we've been so programmed that salary is one of the first thoughts that comes to mind.
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The trade offer Rosenthal actually suggests is Billy Butler + Wil Myers AND/OR Jake Odorizzi.

He's not saying that the Royals SHOULD do that... but that type of deal is what the Mariners should look for in return for King Felix.

I don't think the Royals can do that, personally. Would really cripple the offense to move the best, established veteran hitter (and one who is controlled longer than King Felix).

Especially considering Hernandez already has a lot of mileage and is in the midst of his worst year.
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Anyway, I agree with NOT trading Butler. You improve the ML club by trading high-quality prospects, not high-quality contributors at the ML level.

Despite the ridiculous hate Butter has received on this board in the past seasons, he's not so quietly developing into one of the top right-handed bats in the game, and if he continues his trajectory, he'll be one of the top right-handed bats of his generation.
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Anyway, I agree with NOT trading Butler. You improve the ML club by trading high-quality prospects, not high-quality contributors at the ML level.

Despite the ridiculous hate Butter has received on this board in the past seasons, he's not so quietly developing into one of the top right-handed bats in the game, and if he continues his trajectory, he'll be one of the top right-handed bats of his generation.
Whoa.....slow down there. He is good, but lets not get ahead of ourselves here.
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#Royals trade RHP Sean O'Sullivan to Toronto for cash considerations. He was 5-4, 6.75 for AAA Omaha this year


Who the heck would want Sean O'Sullivan?!?!?
And now starts the career renaissance for SOS. I do kid a bit but at this point would anyone be shocked if a guy we gave up on becomes a 10-12 game winner.
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Whoa.....slow down there. He is good, but lets not get ahead of ourselves here.
It's not, actually, if "he continues his current trajectory," as I noted. That's simply how good Butler has been and has the potential to become.
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