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Old 04-27-2017, 07:19 PM  
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Old 12-26-2023, 10:20 AM   #38881
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Iowahawkeyechief isn't wrong. Mahomes is in a funk. He missed many open throws today. I'm tired of hearing about the scrambles....maybe stop dropping back 10 on every play. Mahomes is great...one of the best in the league, but why won't anyone actually talk about the possibility that he is part of the problem? On the game today, Romo went to talk about how Mahomes scramble were because no one was open, then shows clips of the play of Kelce, Rice and MVS wide open. We can't talk about him being a superstar to thread a needle when they show Kelce waving with no one in the picture with him.
Everyone acknowledges he isn’t himself. But this narrative that WRs are flying open everywhere is blame shifting. This isn’t some DE who just needs to work harder and smarter to overcome triple teams. This is John Stockton who relies on the other guy to do his damn job in order to complete the assist and they’re blowing wide open slam dunks FREQUENTLY. and it’s not like Stockton throwing into the post and asking Malone to make some great contested shot. Our WRs are the worst in the league at contested catches. So our WRs have to be more open than the average WR to make a catch. Mahomes has to make the perfect read and throw a perfect ball because otherwise his WRs won’t catch it and even when he does everything perfect they STILL **** things up at an astoundingly high rate.

And with all this now we just gave the mahomes haters red meat to claim he can’t do shit without weapons, and chiefs fans are leaning into this narrative because we can’t just say our WRs are just a whole other level of bad?Screw that. The idea that mahomes needs to just get over it and throw to guys who keep ****ing up the other end is nuts. He is shaken, which means he’s part of the problem, but any reasonable person knows that’s completely understandable.

It is way more complicated than to just say mahomes is missing guys left and right. He doesn’t trust guys because when he does trust them, they not only **** it up, they kill drives. We have game after game after game of evidence that shows when we target these “wide open” receivers bad things happen because they find ways to make costly mistakes. He doesn’t throw open WRs because he doesn’t expect them to be there. It is just one game and we have a few examples of WRs not turning around looking for the ball and Mvs giving up on his route. We are literally suggesting an approach that repeatedly has led to bad results. So yeah when mahomes spent a whole season of this, he’s burnt out. I don’t blame them. You know what fixes this? It isn’t fixing mahomes. It isn’t even bringing in Justin Jeffersons. Get WRs who can do the very low bar bare minimum we ask them to do. Our WRs can’t even know their damn ABCs.

Just to be clear, this isn’t a rant against you because you’re not wrong. It’s just addressing a narrative we’ve seen all too often of grilling mahomes for missing wrs left and right
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Old 12-26-2023, 10:34 AM   #38882
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MVS with the most WR snaps yesterday. At this point I don't know how anyone can think they're trying to put Mahomes in a position to succeed. This is damn near sabotage levels.
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Only 9 completions beyond the LoS. Out of 21 attempts. Only three completions beyond 8 yards.
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Mahomes made some bad throws, no doubt, but I think this chart just goes to show how our WR's can't win on the outside. We've got nobody on the outside that's willing to 'fight' for a reception.

Add that to the drops, the shit play calling, the O-Line embarassment from yesterday and it's no wonder Pat is pissed as all get out.
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The only difference that stands out is the amount of completions that are actually behind the LOS. Are defenses playing us closer to the line to take that away? Are our receivers unaware of where the LOS is? Or did we have a slight adjustment in our offense after it was revealed we forgot to sign an actual wide receiver in the offseason?
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Dude, 3x the passes behind the LOS yesterday.

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I would say our opening script of sideways passes and predicable runs look like it was designed to make the Raiders defense as comfortable as possible and build their confidence they could upset us.
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On the pick 6 Ross was wide open and Mahomes had all day. No safety anywhere near him. This was a designed play but man Ross was open
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On the pick 6 Ross was wide open and Mahomes had all day. No safety anywhere near him. This was a designed play but man Ross was open
I don't think it was a designed play. If the corner is squatting you can't ever make that throw. For some reason Mahomes thought it was man with the corner's back turned, which is the only time you'd make that play.

Mahomes got desperate to get anything going on offense. Which is really odd considering we just scored.

Making that throw on first down is criminal negligence as a QB. Hold the ball and try to hit Ross.
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