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Old 08-25-2021, 05:35 PM   #38866
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Old 08-25-2021, 05:36 PM   #38867
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Old 08-25-2021, 05:37 PM   #38868
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Old 08-25-2021, 05:40 PM   #38869
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Even says in your snippet Veach was the first to see his talent. What an absolute reerun.
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Old 08-25-2021, 05:47 PM   #38870
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Hmmm.... seems like something is different this season. Is it the team he’s on, the players around him, the coaching? What in the world is it??
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Old 08-25-2021, 05:50 PM   #38871
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Even says in your snippet Veach was the first to see his talent. What an absolute reerun.
It doesn't matter who likes him first. He didn't draft him. Dorsey did. And Dorsey had Ballard, a guy widely considered to be the best talent evaluator in the league, go to Lubbock, TX to take a look at him.
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As the draft approached, Veach sold Reid and then-general manager John Dorsey on Mahomes.
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“Brett, obviously with retrospect now, did a tremendous job on scouting Patrick and then getting first, Andy, and then later, John Dorsey, excited about him,” Hunt told reporters in October.
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By the night of the draft, the entire Chiefs brain trust aligned with Veach. They didn’t need a quarterback, because Smith had just concluded a season in which he went 11-4, helped the Chiefs claim the AFC West title and posted a 91.2 quarterback rating.
But in Mahomes, they saw their future.

Sure seems like a lot of Veach to me.


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Old 08-25-2021, 06:12 PM   #38873
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It doesn't matter who likes him first. He didn't draft him. Dorsey did. And Dorsey had Ballard, a guy widely considered to be the best talent evaluator in the league, go to Lubbock, TX to take a look at him.
You mean like Brett Veach?

Funny how the opinions only matter that fit your narrative.
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“Brett, obviously with retrospect now, did a tremendous job on scouting Patrick and then getting first, Andy, and then later, John Dorsey, excited about him,” Hunt told reporters in October. “It truly was an organizational decision to draft him, so I don’t want to minimize that, but Brett deserves a lot of the credit.”

Based on their intel, Cabott said they expected Mahomes would be taken shortly after the ninth pick. He described the lineup of the Bills, Saints, Browns and Cardinals at the 10th through 13th picks as the “hot corner” for Mahomes.

Man, I wonder how Dorsey knew the exact draft position to trade up for Mahomes. A reasonable person would credit the relationship between Veach and Cabbott and the subsequent Intel on who else was interested, but Veach doesn't deserve any of the credit so we must look elsewhere, I suppose.
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Dorsey wouldn’t have even had someone to trade up for had Veach not brought Patrick to the table

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Dorsey didn’t have to work very hard to do this trade considering he got intel from Patrick’s agent…who Veach talked to for 94 straight days about getting Patrick

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“We had charted it pretty well,” Steinberg said.
Veach is the foundation to Mahomes becoming a Chief. Nobody else

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Dorsey wouldn’t have even had someone to trade up for had Veach not brought Patrick to the table



Dorsey didn’t have to work very hard to do this trade considering he got intel from Patrick’s agent…who Veach talked to for 94 straight days about getting Patrick



Veach is the foundation to Mahomes becoming a Chief. Nobody else

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Meanwhile, in Dungver. Elway was and keeps passing on franchise QBs to take DEs and DBs because he has absolutely zero eye for QB talent and is afraid to take a chance.

And everyone in KC appreciates this very much.

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It doesn't matter who likes him first. He didn't draft him. Dorsey did. And Dorsey had Ballard, a guy widely considered to be the best talent evaluator in the league, go to Lubbock, TX to take a look at him.
You do realize Ballard was the Colts GM during the Mahomes draft, correct?
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So yet another piece of information confirming what everyone else on here has already said; Veach was the one pounding the table for Mahomes and getting everyone else in the Chiefs front office excited about him. Yes, Dorsey made the trade and the pick, but he wouldn’t have done ANY of that without Veach’s legwork.

So again, Veach is the MAIN reason Mahomes is here.
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