*****The Patrick Mahomes Thread*****

[Dante84]

IT ****ING HAPPENED



OP UPDATE:

Because of all the interest in this thread, I've place all of the video content of Patrick Mahomes II's college career, and draft day goodness into a single post that can be found here. Enjoy!

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Nobody's open. pic.twitter.com/69foMoWqUU

— Bill Barnwell (@billbarnwell) December 25, 2023

Has been happening all season long. A combination of having no WRs and Kelce decline.

if that's actually accurate. MVS is definitely open...

[-King-]

Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief

I was at the game as well. Players were open. I was disappointed we didn't run more of a horizontal game/look to slow down their edges. They were lining up wide and we showed not threat of going outside. This was possibly Mahomes worse game as a chief in my opinion. He had open guys and decided to run it, many times he had a tight, but ok pocket and his eyes weren't staying downfield. He would have quick 3 step reads and wasn't pulling the trigger. Made some really bad decision on balls as well and it could have been even worse. It was eerily similar to the 2nd half of the Bengals AFCCG 2 years ago. He was easily frazzled most of the game and didn't seem to have control between plays/presnap. It was like the whole team was in a funk

....you were disappointed we didn't run a more horizontal game... I'm not sure what game you were watching because that's literally all we did.

[Wisconsin_Chief]

Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief

if that's actually accurate. MVS is definitely open...

And chances he would have caught it are what, like 22%? At best?

[-King-]

Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief

if that's actually accurate. MVS is definitely open...

Mvs is only open if he sits in that zone. Which he doesn't. Any throw to him is getting picked off by 25.

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Originally Posted by -King-

....you were disappointed we didn't run a more horizontal game... I'm not sure what game you were watching because that's literally all we did.

We ran little if any jet motion, or attempted no jet sweeps to keep the ends honest. We ran little if any under crossing routes. We threw some screens and some quicks and nows, but that's not going to hold the edge like a Jet sweep or motion. The one time we did run Pacheco out of wildcat, and the fake to Mahomes for the TD which took advantage of their edges crashing every play. It may be a product of having Toney and Mecole out, but it was strange not to see more motion/sweeps incorporated into the game with the Raiders edge strategy today.

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by -King-

....you were disappointed we didn't run a more horizontal game... I'm not sure what game you were watching because that's literally all we did.

Spent a large chunk of the game with negative yardage on short/horizontal passing plays and rushing attempts

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Originally Posted by -King-

Mvs is only open if he sits in that zone. Which he doesn't. Any throw to him is getting picked off by 25.

You guys are nuts, that's NFL open and easily completed if he throws it.

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief

And chances he would have caught it are what, like 22%? At best?

Maybe, but Pat can't play that way, he needs to do his job, period. He was as bad as I've seen on doing his job today, not only during the actual play, but between and presnap, he just seem out of it, like the AFCCG against the Bengals 2 years ago. It was bizarre.

[pete_the_cat]

I’m sick of hearing excuses. The receiver room only lost JuJu and added Rice. The man makes $50 Million per year. Put it on the receiver in tight windows like he has for years. Make them drop it.

Too much dancing and indecisiveness. That shit worked when 87 was younger and they had Hill but now they’re slow and old. 1-2-3 throw the ****ing ball.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief

You guys are nuts, that's NFL open and easily completed if he throws it.

I get that "NFL open" is your new go to phrase, but no, he's not open unless your definition of open is the split second before you run into another zone defender and he carries you the rest of your route.

I really want you to pin point the moment Mahomes should have thrown it and what you think #25 would have done.

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Originally Posted by DRM08

Spent a large chunk of the game with negative yardage on short/horizontal passing plays and rushing attempts

Yes, again, talking about Jet motion, and sweeps and short crossers. Little if any of this today which was strange with the Raiders Edge strategy.

[dannybcaitlyn]

Shouldn’t have given him a raise. He’s playing like the 10th best quarterback, not the highest paid one.

[stevieray]

14 INT in 15 games.

[Gary Cooper]

What other NFL QB would do better with this lineup?

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by dannybcaitlyn

Shouldn’t have given him a raise. He’s playing like the 10th best quarterback, not the highest paid one.

And he was drastically underpaid the previous 5 years.