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Old 11-26-2022, 10:07 PM   #3856
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It was the Gannon-Grbac referendum for me and at Age 7 I couldn't take it and I cried the entire night at my grandparents house.



Looking back it was my blackpill, as it was confirmation that the Chiefs picked wrong and all of the other kids in my class thought I was weird for not liking Grbac.
I am pretty sure Gannon was 13-13 as the Chiefs starter.

Its a myth that he played at or near an MVP level while he was here. He won MVP by dinking and dunking ala Alex Smith.

Should he have started the Denver playoff game? Yes. Was he some great QB while he was here? No.

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I am pretty sure Gannon was 13-13 as the Chiefs starter.

Its a myth that he played at or near an MVP level while he was here. He won MVP by dinking and dunking ala Alex Smith.

Should he have started the Denver playoff game? Yes. Was he some great QB while he was here? No.

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He was better than Grbac, which is what killed me to accept at that time.
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Gunther Cunningham held a 17-0 lead, at home, to a division rival. All they had to do was cruise to the division title. And the home playoff game.

He personally hired Jon Baker because "he ripped his sleeves of in cold weather" during the tryout and Gunther thought that made the difference in hiring Baker over anybody else. He kicked the ****ing ball OOB 3 times in that game including the dagger in OT and cost the Chiefs the division and the playoffs.
Still angry about that game. Wasn't Baker the kick-off specialist (not even the regular place-kicker)? I could be mis-remembering that part.

He's up there with Lin...never mind; not going to even type it.
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It was the Gannon-Grbac referendum for me and at Age 7 I couldn't take it and I cried the entire night at my grandparents house.

Looking back it was my blackpill, as it was confirmation that the Chiefs picked wrong and all of the other kids in my class thought I was weird for not liking Grbac.
That season, you could get a Big Mac for 11 cents because of Grbac. I actually ate several Grbac Mac's that season, many from a location inside of a Walmart in Overland Park. True Story.
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Old 11-26-2022, 10:42 PM   #3860
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Sutton defenses gave up less than 20 points a game in 4 or his 6 years. He had the:

5th - 19.1 points/gm (tied,)
2nd - 17.6 points/gm
3rd - 17.9 points/gm
7th - 19.4 points/gm
15th - 21.2 points/gm
24th - 26.3 points/gm
ranked scoring defenses.

His last two years were atrocious.

So far, Spags had one season giving up less than 20 points per game.

2019 - 7th - 19.2 points/gm
2020 - 11th - 22.6 points/gm
2021 - 8th - 21.4 points/gm
2022 - 20th - 23.3 points/gm

And in that one season Mahomes led us to the win in SB LIV.

Other than our hate we have for Sutton wasting Patrick's MVP season, there really is no statistical evidence that Spags (with the Chiefs) is better than Sutton.

If Mahomes was our QB in any of Sutton's first 4 years, we would definitely have more Super Bowl rings.

Other than being the DC when Mahomes led the team to a SB, Spags is just as bad as Sutton.

Edit: And if not for a bogus roughing penalty, and dumbass Ford, Sutton would also have a SB ring.





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That season, you could get a Big Mac for 11 cents because of Grbac. I actually ate several Grbac Mac's that season, many from a location inside of a Walmart in Overland Park. True Story.
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Sutton defenses gave up less than 20 points a game in 4 or his 6 years. He had the:

5th - 19.1 points/gm (tied,)
2nd - 17.6 points/gm
3rd - 17.9 points/gm
7th - 19.4 points/gm
15th - 21.2 points/gm
24th - 26.3 points/gm
ranked scoring defenses.

His last two years were atrocious.

So far, Spags had one season giving up less than 20 points per game.

2019 - 7th - 19.2 points/gm
2020 - 11th - 22.6 points/gm
2021 - 8th - 21.4 points/gm
2022 - 20th - 23.3 points/gm

And in that one season Mahomes led us to the win in SB LIV.

Other than our hate we have for Sutton wasting Patrick's MVP season, there really is no statistical evidence that Spags (with the Chiefs) is better than Sutton.

If Mahomes was our QB in any of Sutton's first 4 years, we would definitely have more Super Bowl rings.

Other than being the DC when Mahomes led the team to a SB, Spags is just as bad as Sutton.

Edit: And if not for a bogus roughing penalty, and dumbass Ford, Sutton would also have a SB ring.





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So you think offenses played as aggressively when we had Alex Smith as QB as they do when we have Mahomes?

Isn’t it kinda obvious that defensive stats would look worse with a better QB/offensive system?
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Old 11-27-2022, 12:02 AM   #3863
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So you think offenses played as aggressively when we had Alex Smith as QB as they do when we have Mahomes?



Isn’t it kinda obvious that defensive stats would look worse with a better QB/offensive system?
Teams try to score regardless of who the opposing QB is.

If anything, the fact that Mahomes is our QB helps Spags and his stats, because when teams press they make mistakes, players try to do too much, etc.

I hate Bob Sutton, and I think he should have retired after the loss to Tennessee in the playoffs. But, if Jones doesn't get called for roughing the passer for hitting Brady's shoulder pads, or Ford doesn't line up offsides, Sutton probably has a SB ring as a DC.

If we win SB 53, Sutton returns, and we could have still won SB 54.

My main point though, is that I don't understand the love that Spags gets, because he has not been any better than Sutton. The only difference is he played the Titans in the AFC Championship game instead of Brady.

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Sutton defenses gave up less than 20 points a game in 4 or his 6 years. He had the:

5th - 19.1 points/gm (tied,)
2nd - 17.6 points/gm
3rd - 17.9 points/gm
7th - 19.4 points/gm
15th - 21.2 points/gm
24th - 26.3 points/gm
ranked scoring defenses.

His last two years were atrocious.

So far, Spags had one season giving up less than 20 points per game.

2019 - 7th - 19.2 points/gm
2020 - 11th - 22.6 points/gm
2021 - 8th - 21.4 points/gm
2022 - 20th - 23.3 points/gm

And in that one season Mahomes led us to the win in SB LIV.

Other than our hate we have for Sutton wasting Patrick's MVP season, there really is no statistical evidence that Spags (with the Chiefs) is better than Sutton.

If Mahomes was our QB in any of Sutton's first 4 years, we would definitely have more Super Bowl rings.

Other than being the DC when Mahomes led the team to a SB, Spags is just as bad as Sutton.

Edit: And if not for a bogus roughing penalty, and dumbass Ford, Sutton would also have a SB ring.





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Sutton defenses gave up less than 20 points a game in 4 or his 6 years. He had the:

5th - 19.1 points/gm (tied,)
2nd - 17.6 points/gm
3rd - 17.9 points/gm
7th - 19.4 points/gm
15th - 21.2 points/gm
24th - 26.3 points/gm
ranked scoring defenses.

His last two years were atrocious.

So far, Spags had one season giving up less than 20 points per game.

2019 - 7th - 19.2 points/gm
2020 - 11th - 22.6 points/gm
2021 - 8th - 21.4 points/gm
2022 - 20th - 23.3 points/gm

And in that one season Mahomes led us to the win in SB LIV.

Other than our hate we have for Sutton wasting Patrick's MVP season, there really is no statistical evidence that Spags (with the Chiefs) is better than Sutton.

If Mahomes was our QB in any of Sutton's first 4 years, we would definitely have more Super Bowl rings.

Other than being the DC when Mahomes led the team to a SB, Spags is just as bad as Sutton.

Edit: And if not for a bogus roughing penalty, and dumbass Ford, Sutton would also have a SB ring.

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He's a fine DC. Wouldn't say he's top 10, and he does have some frustrating traits (he can be loyal to some reeeeeally shitty players, man) but the guy coaches the shit out of any and all defensive backs, and he's one of the more unpredictable DCs out in the league. He's pretty creative.

I'll say this... be careful for what you wish for. If you want Spags gone, we could do worse. A looooot worse.

Greg Robinsons are way more common than the good ones, and sometimes the coaches we think brilliant are just mediocre guys who need brilliant talent in order to not shit the bed. Put them even on last year's Chiefs defense with douches like Hitchens, business decision Badger, and Niemann, and you'd be begging for a coach like Spags.
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Teams try to score regardless of who the opposing QB is.

If anything, the fact that Mahomes is our QB helps Spags and his stats, because when teams press they make mistakes, players try to do too much, etc.

I hate Bob Sutton, and I think he should have retired after the loss to Tennessee in the playoffs. But, if Jones doesn't get called for roughing the passer for hitting Brady's shoulder pads, or Ford doesn't line up offsides, Sutton probably has a SB ring as a DC.

If we win SB 53, Sutton returns, and we could have still won SB 54.

My main point though, is that I don't understand the love that Spags gets, because he has not been any better than Sutton. The only difference is he played the Titans in the AFC Championship game instead of Brady.

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Context matters though. Sutton hit his ceiling in '16 he needed to go. Same thing happened to Spags before and will probably happen again. Sometimes coaches just flame out after awhile schemes get figured out, the message no longer resonates, etc.

Hard to argue with a championship, another super bowl, and 4 AFC title games since he was hired. It was the right call
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Context matters though. Sutton hit his ceiling in '16 he needed to go. Same thing happened to Spags before and will probably happen again. Sometimes coaches just flame out after awhile schemes get figured out, the message no longer resonates, etc.

Hard to argue with a championship, another super bowl, and 4 AFC title games since he was hired. It was the right call
I can't remember the other candidates available at the time, but there wasn't really a consensus "That's the guy!" among the fans. Some fans wanted Rex, and other fans were pretty adamant about staying the hell away from him.

Considering how quickly we wanted to rebuild the defense, a first time DC just wasn't in the cards, either. It would have been a big roll of the dice, and more than likely the guy we brought in wouldn't have the connections to the quality position coaches we brought in.

Plus, at some point... I mean, the coach isn't the one strapping on the goddamn helmet. At some point as long as he's not a bumbling reerun, it's up to the players to just ****ing play.

ChiefFanatic is kind of having his period over nothing.
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I can't remember the other candidates available at the time, but there wasn't really a consensus "That's the guy!" among the fans. Some fans wanted Rex, and other fans were pretty adamant about staying the hell away from him.

Considering how quickly we wanted to rebuild the defense, a first time DC just wasn't in the cards, either. It would have been a big roll of the dice, and more than likely the guy we brought in wouldn't have the connections to the quality position coaches we brought in.

Plus, at some point... I mean, the coach isn't the one strapping on the goddamn helmet. At some point as long as he's not a bumbling reerun, it's up to the players to just ****ing play.

ChiefFanatic is kind of having his period over nothing.
It's a weird argument for sure. I forget if it was him or someone else I had a debate with about a month ago. They didn't like Spags style because it gives up a bunch of yards. Yards. Who gives a **** about yards? Yards don't beat Mahomes only 7s can. Spags defense does enough to limit those. That's all we need.
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He's a fine DC. Wouldn't say he's top 10, and he does have some frustrating traits (he can be loyal to some reeeeeally shitty players, man) but the guy coaches the shit out of any and all defensive backs, and he's one of the more unpredictable DCs out in the league. He's pretty creative.

I'll say this... be careful for what you wish for. If you want Spags gone, we could do worse. A looooot worse.

Greg Robinsons are way more common than the good ones, and sometimes the coaches we think brilliant are just mediocre guys who need brilliant talent in order to not shit the bed. Put them even on last year's Chiefs defense with douches like Hitchens, business decision Badger, and Niemann, and you'd be begging for a coach like Spags.
Even more importantly, Reid trusts him as the CEO of that side of the ball. We know where Reid spends his time/focus and it's not defense (nor should it be).
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Sutton defenses gave up less than 20 points a game in 4 or his 6 years. He had the:

5th - 19.1 points/gm (tied,)
2nd - 17.6 points/gm
3rd - 17.9 points/gm
7th - 19.4 points/gm
15th - 21.2 points/gm
24th - 26.3 points/gm
ranked scoring defenses.

His last two years were atrocious.

So far, Spags had one season giving up less than 20 points per game.

2019 - 7th - 19.2 points/gm
2020 - 11th - 22.6 points/gm
2021 - 8th - 21.4 points/gm
2022 - 20th - 23.3 points/gm

And in that one season Mahomes led us to the win in SB LIV.

Other than our hate we have for Sutton wasting Patrick's MVP season, there really is no statistical evidence that Spags (with the Chiefs) is better than Sutton.

If Mahomes was our QB in any of Sutton's first 4 years, we would definitely have more Super Bowl rings.

Other than being the DC when Mahomes led the team to a SB, Spags is just as bad as Sutton.

Edit: And if not for a bogus roughing penalty, and dumbass Ford, Sutton would also have a SB ring.





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When Sutton had that defense, how many of those guys were rookies/FNGs, came from different systems, etc. How many times did Sutton have to rebuild/partially the defense? how did Sutton's D perform when his key players were hurt (Dee Ford/justin Houston/Eric Berry as examples)?

And besides generating sacks, what else did that defense excel at? In the playoffs? Situationally, ever?

Suck off stats if you want. The rest of us know what Sutton's defense was good for.
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