New Conference re-alignment thread

[Saulbadguy]

The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.

[Pants]

Originally Posted by vailpass

If so I wish MU the best but man that just doesn't seem like a good fit culturally.

The state of Missouri is much more SEC as a whole than the Big 10. KC and STL might be Big 10 culture, but that's about it.

[DaKCMan AP]

Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

Is it DONE?

[BigCatDaddy]

Over/Under. How many years after joining the SEC do Mizzu fans start having buyers remorse? I say during the first year you start to hear squeeks about it and during year 2 a full blown meltdown about how "stupid the move was" and with demands to go back to the Big 12.

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by Pants

The state of Missouri is much more SEC as a whole than the Big 10. KC and STL might be Big 10 culture, but that's about it.

That makes sense, I hadn't considered it from the perspective of the state. I was thinking of the educational institution and it's athletic programs.
They seem more B1G to me and I'll admit I'd have liked to have seen MU join us.

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by Pants

The state of Missouri is much more SEC as a whole than the Big 10. KC and STL might be Big 10 culture, but that's about it.

Slavers unite?

[icepick64]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Over/Under. How many years after joining the SEC do Mizzu fans start having buyers remorse? I say during the first year you start to hear squeeks about it and during year 2 a full blown meltdown about how "stupid the move was" and with demands to go back to the Big 12.

I doubt mizzou regrets moving to the SEC. Look at arkansas, they sure did build that program up, mizzou will do the same thing.

If mizzou is an arkansas in several years, i think that would be considered successful.

[kchero]

Originally Posted by Pants

The state of Missouri is much more SEC as a whole than the Big 10. KC and STL might be Big 10 culture, but that's about it.

I have to disagree just a bit....Sure in areas around Springfield and such I would agree, but the central and northern parts of the state are more of a BIG XII and B1G culture.

[Pants]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Over/Under. How many years after joining the SEC do Mizzu fans start having buyers remorse? I say during the first year you start to hear squeeks about it and during year 2 a full blown meltdown about how "stupid the move was" and with demands to go back to the Big 12.

I think it's a smart move for MU and one that they will not regret.

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by icepick64

I doubt mizzou regrets moving to the SEC. Look at arkansas, they sure did build that program up, mizzou will do the same thing.

If mizzou is an arkansas in several years, i think that would be considered successful.

You assume football is the only thing MU and it's alumni, student body and supporters care about. Which is the SEC mindset.
I'm not saying MU will regret it, just pointing out a potential difference in philosophies.

*I'm in now way equipped to say what the MU mindset is, I'm just an outside observer*

[eazyb81]

Originally Posted by vailpass

You assume football is the only thing MU and it's alumni, student body and supporters care about. Which is the SEC mindset.
I'm not saying MU will regret it, just pointing out a potential difference in philosophies.

Right, but the reality is that conferences are based on athletics, and primarily for football. Mizzou fans don't have to act or speak like Alabama fans to share a conference with them. Mizzou's academics aren't going to take a hit by going to the SEC, and Alabama's are not going to improve because Mizzou is now in the conference.

Great arguments could be made for B1G or SEC, and Mizzou is a good fit for either. SEC has an opening and B1G doesn't though so it is an easy decision.

[DaKCMan AP]

Originally Posted by vailpass

That makes sense, I hadn't considered it from the perspective of the state. I was thinking of the educational institution and it's athletic programs.
They seem more B1G to me and I'll admit I'd have liked to have seen MU join us.

Vandy, A&M, and Florida are all AAU schools.

How does Mizzou not fit in the SEC as an educational institution?

US News 2011 University Rankings
Vanderbilt 17
Florida 58
Texas A&M 58
Georgia 62
Alabama 75
Auburn 82
Missouri 90
Tennessee 101
South Carolina 111
Kentucky 124
Louisiana State 128
Arkansas 132
Mississippi 143
Mississippi State 157

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Over/Under. How many years after joining the SEC do Mizzu fans start having buyers remorse? I say during the first year you start to hear squeeks about it and during year 2 a full blown meltdown about how "stupid the move was" and with demands to go back to the Big 12.

Considering that its been half a century since a team left the SEC despite the fact that there is zero legal obligation to stay, I'll take the over. In the SEC, the walls you see are the gates around the neighborhood. In the Big 12-2-2, those are prison walls.

[Bambi]

Originally Posted by frazod

Says the Yankmees season ticket holder who posted a picture of Texas' championship banners yesterday.

Eat shit, clown.

The only clown I know is one that claims Kansas City Chiefs and St. Louis Cardinals.

I can't think of a bigger shame.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

Considering that its been half a century since a team left the SEC despite the fact that there is zero legal obligation to stay, I'll take the over. In the SEC, the walls you see are the gates around the neighborhood. In the Big 12-2-2, those are prison walls.

I just think after a few mediocre football seasons where they are finishing 7th or 8th place in the conference you are going to start here rumblings among the fans. The school itself may be better off financially, but I'm predicting a major 180 turn amongst the fans that want to make the move now. I think they would rather win on Fox Sports then lose on CBS.

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by Wickedson

The only clown I know is one that claims Kansas City Chiefs and St. Louis Cardinals.

I can't think of a bigger shame.

Yeah, somebody from Central Missouri rooting for the same teams he's rooted for all his life? Check the Cardinals thread - there are lots of us. You've tried this before and failed miserably, you ****ing imbecile. Stick to something you do well - like sucking Longhorn cock.