Home Discord Chat
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > Nzoner's Game Room
Reload this Page Chiefs *****The Patrick Mahomes Thread*****
Register FAQDonate Members List Calendar

Reply
Page 2558 of 2770 « First 155820582458250825482554255525562557 2558 2559256025612562256826082658 Last »
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-27-2017, 07:19 PM  
Dante84 Dante84 is offline
Tossed Salad & Scrambled Eggs
 
Dante84's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: ATX & OPKS
Casino cash: $-38004
VARSITY
*****The Patrick Mahomes Thread*****
IT ****ING HAPPENED



OP UPDATE:

Because of all the interest in this thread, I've place all of the video content of Patrick Mahomes II's college career, and draft day goodness into a single post that can be found here. Enjoy!
Last edited by Dante84; 05-17-2017 at 09:40 AM..
Posts: 20,076
Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 11-08-2023, 11:48 AM   #38356
Chiefspants Chiefspants is online now
World's Best Boss
 
Chiefspants's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Bronco Country
Casino cash: $4654654
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city View Post
Rice isn't doing that stuff because Pat isn't targeting him. JuJu didn't do anything in those that Rice can't do.
Juju’s route tree was more advanced and it’s likely his timing was considerably more consistent than where Rice is at the moment.

I’m a big Rice guy, I think he’ll get there, I don’t think he’s there yet.

DJ disagrees with my take on this, but our O had the second highest 3rd down conversion rate last year and Juju was responsible for converting nearly 20% of all of our O’s third downs (despite only starting 14 games). While that doesn’t seem like a super high number, to me that’s the difference between 1 of our drives per game stalling at midfield or settling for 3 (as we’ve done a lot this year), and a grind it out, 15 play drive that ends in 6.

FWIW, I think Patrick has taken a step back, too. However I don’t think we can waive off Juju’s absence by saying Rice is better or even that he’s already at the level Juju was last season.
Last edited by Chiefspants; 11-09-2023 at 09:49 PM..
Posts: 18,571
Chiefspants is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chiefspants is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chiefspants is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chiefspants is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chiefspants is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chiefspants is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chiefspants is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chiefspants is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chiefspants is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chiefspants is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chiefspants is obviously part of the inner Circle.
 Thumbs Up 2 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 11-08-2023, 11:50 AM   #38357
Hammock Parties Hammock Parties is offline
I'll be back.
 
Hammock Parties's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2002
Casino cash: $2840478
Quote:
Originally Posted by staylor26 View Post


The reason Rice saw the field so much week 1 despite being a rookie WR in Reid's offense is his ability to do just that.
Yeah he's not really doing that. He gets schemed open more than anything. He's done SOME settling in against zones but not at the level JuJu was, and not downfield like he was.

Additionally he played a total of 32 snaps in the first two weeks. Come on, man.

Yes, we miss JuJu. No, Rice hasn't fully replaced him.
__________________
Chiefs game films
Posts: 288,119
Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.
 Thumbs Up 1 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 11-08-2023, 11:52 AM   #38358
RunKC RunKC is online now
Andy Reid Supporter
 
RunKC's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2012
Casino cash: $399611
The majority of Rice's big plays were schemed. He's been excellent as a rookie but Juju had experience and knew how to get open in zone better. Rice isn't bad at that, he's just young. Even still they need to get him more involved.

We don't have a guy at WR that can sell routes really well on a consistent basis and it's hurting us. Rice, Hardman and Toney are all running designed plays.

Justin Watson might be our best route runner at WR this year.
__________________
Mike Greenberg@Espngreeny
I can’t fathom what it must be like to be a fan of the #Chiefs.


Adopt a Chief: Jared Wiley
Posts: 48,313
RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 11-08-2023, 11:55 AM   #38359
Bl00dyBizkitz Bl00dyBizkitz is offline
Veteran
 

Join Date: Nov 2013
Casino cash: $1008419
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties View Post
Yeah he's not really doing that. He gets schemed open more than anything. He's done SOME settling in against zones but not at the level JuJu was, and not downfield like he was.

Additionally he played a total of 32 snaps in the first two weeks. Come on, man.

Yes, we miss JuJu. No, Rice hasn't fully replaced him.
Not to beat a dead horse, but this situation is where the Skyy Moore whiff really hurts. If Moore, or even Toney, could've been a consistent chain mover, I think we'd be having an entirely different conversation about the offense right now.
Posts: 3,596
Bl00dyBizkitz threw an interception on a screen pass.Bl00dyBizkitz threw an interception on a screen pass.Bl00dyBizkitz threw an interception on a screen pass.Bl00dyBizkitz threw an interception on a screen pass.Bl00dyBizkitz threw an interception on a screen pass.Bl00dyBizkitz threw an interception on a screen pass.Bl00dyBizkitz threw an interception on a screen pass.Bl00dyBizkitz threw an interception on a screen pass.Bl00dyBizkitz threw an interception on a screen pass.Bl00dyBizkitz threw an interception on a screen pass.Bl00dyBizkitz threw an interception on a screen pass.
 Thumbs Up 1 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 11-08-2023, 12:02 PM   #38360
Hammock Parties Hammock Parties is offline
I'll be back.
 
Hammock Parties's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2002
Casino cash: $2840478
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz View Post
Not to beat a dead horse, but this situation is where the Skyy Moore whiff really hurts. If Moore, or even Toney, could've been a consistent chain mover, I think we'd be having an entirely different conversation about the offense right now.
100% agree

you see both of them do things JuJu was doing sporadically, like that great catch skyy made down the sideline against Miami

but it happens so infrequently Patrick isn't sure who he can trust

it's pretty apparent at this point he had a HIGH level of trust that JuJu was going to be where he needed to be

those RPO slants are almost dead in this offense too, and JuJu was nails on those

he almost took one for a TD against Buffalo
__________________
Chiefs game films
Posts: 288,119
Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 11-08-2023, 12:14 PM   #38361
ToxSocks ToxSocks is offline
Needs more middle fingers
 
ToxSocks's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: San Diego
Casino cash: $2793063
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties View Post
I disagree wholeheartedly, or he'd be doing it.

It's pretty clear to me Rice doesn't have JuJu's knack for getting open against zone coverage right now
It's clear to me you're just making shit up.

If anything, those GIFS illustrate the difference between Mahomes last year and this year.
__________________
Life is like a dick. Sometimes it gets hard for no reason, but it can't stay hard forever.
Posts: 65,831
ToxSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.ToxSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.ToxSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.ToxSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.ToxSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.ToxSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.ToxSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.ToxSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.ToxSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.ToxSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.ToxSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.
 Thumbs Up 6 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 11-08-2023, 12:18 PM   #38362
Hammock Parties Hammock Parties is offline
I'll be back.
 
Hammock Parties's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2002
Casino cash: $2840478
Quote:
Originally Posted by Detoxing View Post
It's clear to me you're just making shit up.

If anything, those GIFS illustrate the difference between Mahomes last year and this year.
And again that's where I'll disagree.

I can find examples of Mahomes making those kinds of throws this year. But in VERY limited quantities. And I blame that on the receivers.
__________________
Chiefs game films
Posts: 288,119
Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 11-08-2023, 12:50 PM   #38363
O.city O.city is online now
In Search of a Life
 
O.city's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2009
Casino cash: $1174064
Quote:
Originally Posted by Detoxing View Post
It's clear to me you're just making shit up.

If anything, those GIFS illustrate the difference between Mahomes last year and this year.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties View Post
And again that's where I'll disagree.

I can find examples of Mahomes making those kinds of throws this year. But in VERY limited quantities. And I blame that on the receivers.
Because the QB isn't throwing them the ball?

Seems right.

If those gifs are what we're using for "getting open" and "selling routes" there's really no reason to discuss this whole shit bird.
Posts: 82,823
O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.
 Thumbs Up 1 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 11-08-2023, 01:00 PM   #38364
Mr. Plow Mr. Plow is offline
In Search of a Life
 
Mr. Plow's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2005
Casino cash: $227391
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city View Post
Because the QB isn't throwing them the ball?

Seems right.

If those gifs are what we're using for "getting open" and "selling routes" there's really no reason to discuss this whole shit bird.
That's what I was thinking. Not a whole lot of wide open routes on most of those throws.
Posts: 31,259
Mr. Plow is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mr. Plow is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mr. Plow is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mr. Plow is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mr. Plow is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mr. Plow is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mr. Plow is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mr. Plow is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mr. Plow is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mr. Plow is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mr. Plow is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 11-08-2023, 01:16 PM   #38365
Hammock Parties Hammock Parties is offline
I'll be back.
 
Hammock Parties's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2002
Casino cash: $2840478
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city View Post
Because the QB isn't throwing them the ball?
If they were in the right spot he would be.
__________________
Chiefs game films
Posts: 288,119
Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 11-08-2023, 01:40 PM   #38366
DJ's left nut DJ's left nut is offline
Sauntering Vaguely Downwards
 
DJ's left nut's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Columbia, Mo
Casino cash: $1169099
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties View Post
If they were in the right spot he would be.
We have a TON of evidence this year that this simply isn't the case.

He's looking right at guys as they're coming out of a route and simply not triggering. He's playing tentative.
__________________
"If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..."

"When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
Posts: 63,173
DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.
 Thumbs Up 2 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 11-08-2023, 01:46 PM   #38367
Hammock Parties Hammock Parties is offline
I'll be back.
 
Hammock Parties's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2002
Casino cash: $2840478
Quote:
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut View Post
We have a TON of evidence this year that this simply isn't the case.

He's looking right at guys as they're coming out of a route and simply not triggering. He's playing tentative.
six of one, half a dozen of the other
__________________
Chiefs game films
Posts: 288,119
Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 11-08-2023, 01:46 PM   #38368
JohnnyHammersticks JohnnyHammersticks is offline
MVP
 
JohnnyHammersticks's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Chandler AZ
Casino cash: $1391004
Rice is getting open but Mahomes isn't throwing it to him.

It's not blasphemy to admit that Patrick isn't playing up to the absurdly high bar he has set for himself. I'm 100% sure he'll get it figured out before the end of the season and wbf.
Posts: 13,742
JohnnyHammersticks is obviously part of the inner Circle.JohnnyHammersticks is obviously part of the inner Circle.JohnnyHammersticks is obviously part of the inner Circle.JohnnyHammersticks is obviously part of the inner Circle.JohnnyHammersticks is obviously part of the inner Circle.JohnnyHammersticks is obviously part of the inner Circle.JohnnyHammersticks is obviously part of the inner Circle.JohnnyHammersticks is obviously part of the inner Circle.JohnnyHammersticks is obviously part of the inner Circle.JohnnyHammersticks is obviously part of the inner Circle.JohnnyHammersticks is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 11-08-2023, 01:47 PM   #38369
AdolfOliverBush AdolfOliverBush is offline
Banned
 

Join Date: Apr 2019
Casino cash: $5920400
Quote:
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut View Post
We have a TON of evidence this year that this simply isn't the case.

He's looking right at guys as they're coming out of a route and simply not triggering. He's playing tentative.
I agree, and it's so weird. We don't know what it's like to be an NFL QB, but I would think at this point Mahomes would be beyond any tentativeness or self-doubt. He has to know he's King Shit of **** Mountain. If it wasn't Mahomes, I would think he's either got a nagging injury, or some personal shit going on behind the scenes.
Posts: 1
AdolfOliverBush has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.AdolfOliverBush has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.AdolfOliverBush has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.AdolfOliverBush has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.AdolfOliverBush has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.AdolfOliverBush has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.AdolfOliverBush has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.AdolfOliverBush has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.AdolfOliverBush has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.AdolfOliverBush has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.AdolfOliverBush has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.
     Reply With Quote
Old 11-08-2023, 02:16 PM   #38370
Pitt Gorilla Pitt Gorilla is offline
Banned!
 
Pitt Gorilla's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: NOT Columbia, MO 65201
Casino cash: $1510194
Quote:
Originally Posted by crayzkirk View Post
Perhaps some of it is another year of coaches studying the tendencies of the Chiefs; other people are paid to stop teams and this year, there are some really good defenses in the league. It also appears that the league is letting them 'play'; looks like DBs are not getting as many illegal contact and holding penalties.

Something does look off; I will say from experience that recovery from a high ankle sprain takes time. It hasn't even been a year for him. Injury and pain are something humans tend to avoid. I'm sorry to soil the thread with a CEH reference however he has not been the same since the Saints game where he was injured.

Kelce is banged up, there's a new OL, a new OC and a WR corps that he doesn't trust.
I think this is a big part of our issues right now. Defenses have adjusted and figured some things out; now, it's going to be our turn to do the same. Throughout the league, defenses are better and that reality of breaking in TWO new OTs, a new OC, and new receivers is making our adjustments that much more complex.

I think we have the players and coaches to get there, but it almost always takes time. That's life in the NFL.
__________________

Your son is a bench warmer because of your weak genetics not because of the coach

Norlin Mommsen is disgusting.
Posts: 46,909
Pitt Gorilla is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pitt Gorilla is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pitt Gorilla is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pitt Gorilla is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pitt Gorilla is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pitt Gorilla is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pitt Gorilla is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pitt Gorilla is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pitt Gorilla is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pitt Gorilla is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pitt Gorilla is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Reply
Page 2558 of 2770 « First 155820582458250825482554255525562557 2558 2559256025612562256826082658 Last »

« Previous Thread | > Nzoner's Game Room < | Next Thread »

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:19 AM.

Contact Us - ChiefsPlanet - Archive - Top

This is a test for a client's site.
Fort Worth Texas Process Servers
Covering Arlington, Fort Worth, Grand Prairie and surrounding communities.
Tarrant County, Texas and Johnson County, Texas.
Advertise with us!
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.