***The Official MMA Thread***

[KcMizzou]

Excited about an upcoming fight? Want to make predictions, or just give people a heads-up that there are some fights on? We can do it here.

(Also a good place to complain, dicuss, and agrue about the outcomes)

[Sorter]

[TimBone]

Originally Posted by Sorter

lol. That's ****ing awesome.

[BigCatDaddy]

damn! Just imagine if Jones had actually taken DC seriously

[CoMoChief]

I can't even believe Dana White is allowing CM Punk to come into the UFC and fight.

I guess he's desperate to have another large PPV draw. But this is really the last straw for me. I'll watch Anderson Silva try and come back but I'm done watching UFC..it's getting silly. What if Dave Batista calls up White and wants to fight? This guy could get his ass kicked by any tough bar or club bouncer/doorman and White is letting him come in like some celebrity boxing match, trying to use his name to sell tickets/PPV buys. Punk can say all he wants about how this is a goal and a dream of his and he's not going to come into this lightly etc..all the cliche' shit, but at the end of the day he can't fight. Lesnar was a world class athlete and a monster of a dude that was a former NCAA champion wrestler who was probably stronger than any other fighter on UFC's roster. Many pieces were already there.


What in the **** does CM Punk bring to the table? A fake gimmick name and mic skills? Get him on TV, have him pump himself up or the company whatever...get people to watch and bring in $$$PPV$$$. Dana White has said forever he wants this company to be nothing like WWE or celebrity boxing/fighting and he's turning into just that.

If I were UFC fans I'd boycott the UFC....don't give them another dime of your money. Unless its someone like Lebron James, No one can just walk onto a NFL team and instantly just make the gameday squad and play. No one would ever do that. Lesnar tried out for the Vikings, but he was cut. Chad Ochocinco tried out for Sporting KC, but that was just for practicing, he was never going to ever play in an actual game. Hell Garth Brooks played w/ the Royals in ST...And there have been other scenarios. But if Dana White is wanting to legitimate his sport along the lines of MLB NFL NBA NHL then his fights need to be for real.

Just bad for the sport.

[alnorth]

I really can't agree with that, at all.

The UFC wants to bring in CM Punk? Fine, I don't care. If they try to make him the headliner of a PPV, I don't have to buy it. If his fight is free, sure I'll tune in out of curiosity and laugh at him if he loses.

The UFC is, eventually in the long-run, a meritocracy. Regardless of if you think the matchmakers are doing a great job or are incompetent clowns, the best fighters are always going to make themselves known and eventually force the UFC to give them the title shot. If a champion doesn't deserve his belt, he'll eventually lose it or be forced to vacate.

CM Punk is not taking the spot of anyone important. If he's taking anyone's spot, its some random unknown nobody toiling away in a local promotion with maybe a 5-1 record who now has to wait 4 or 5 more months to finally get the call.

[kcxiv]

So nick Diaz gets busted smoking weed and he get screwed. Jones get busted with cocaine and he's allowed to fight. Awesome

[Jerm]

Covering this up just shows what a scumbag Dana White is and what a joke the UFC is....****ing hypocrites.

[alnorth]

Originally Posted by Fruit Ninja

So nick Diaz gets busted smoking weed and he get screwed. Jones get busted with cocaine and he's allowed to fight. Awesome

Nick Diaz was busted with an in-competition test. Jon Jones was busted in an out-of-competition test.

If Nick Diaz would have tested positive in a similar time frame compared to his fight as Jon Jones, he also would have gotten away with no sanctions. If Jon Jones would have tested positive right after his fight, he would have been punished.

Whether you think its a good idea or not, those are the rules. There are a lot of substances that we normally think of as PED's that are banned at all times, but there is also a seperate list of substances that are banned only in-competition. I'm not sure how long before or after an event it takes to be in-competition, but Jon Jones failed an out-of-competition test.

[alnorth]

Originally Posted by Jerm

Covering this up just shows what a scumbag Dana White is and what a joke the UFC is....****ing hypocrites.

Why they hell should they have to announce it before the PPV? If it was actually a PED that could impact the integrity of the competition, then sure, but no one really believes Cocaine a month before a fight is a PED.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by alnorth

Why they hell should they have to announce it before the PPV? If it was actually a PED that could impact the integrity of the competition, then sure, but no one really believes Cocaine a month before a fight is a PED.

Exactly. It had 0 impact on the fight

[alnorth]

In case anyone is wondering what the point is for substances banned only in-competition, its generally for things that no one believes will improve your long-term ability to compete, but could possibly improve your ability to compete later that day or tomorrow. The things banned only in-competition are (in each case there's a list of chemical agents they test for): stimulants, narcotics, cannabinoids, and glucocorticoids.

If you are caught with one of those substances, it only matters under WADA if it was in-competition. For stimulants, caffeine and nicotine are permitted, probably because I guess they decided they don't want the publicity of stripping an olympic medal from someone for drinking coffee or smoking cigarettes.

[thabear04]

Originally Posted by CoMoChief

I can't even believe Dana White is allowing CM Punk to come into the UFC and fight.

I guess he's desperate to have another large PPV draw. But this is really the last straw for me. I'll watch Anderson Silva try and come back but I'm done watching UFC..it's getting silly. What if Dave Batista calls up White and wants to fight? This guy could get his ass kicked by any tough bar or club bouncer/doorman and White is letting him come in like some celebrity boxing match, trying to use his name to sell tickets/PPV buys. Punk can say all he wants about how this is a goal and a dream of his and he's not going to come into this lightly etc..all the cliche' shit, but at the end of the day he can't fight. Lesnar was a world class athlete and a monster of a dude that was a former NCAA champion wrestler who was probably stronger than any other fighter on UFC's roster. Many pieces were already there.


What in the **** does CM Punk bring to the table? A fake gimmick name and mic skills? Get him on TV, have him pump himself up or the company whatever...get people to watch and bring in $$$PPV$$$. Dana White has said forever he wants this company to be nothing like WWE or celebrity boxing/fighting and he's turning into just that.

If I were UFC fans I'd boycott the UFC....don't give them another dime of your money. Unless its someone like Lebron James, No one can just walk onto a NFL team and instantly just make the gameday squad and play. No one would ever do that. Lesnar tried out for the Vikings, but he was cut. Chad Ochocinco tried out for Sporting KC, but that was just for practicing, he was never going to ever play in an actual game. Hell Garth Brooks played w/ the Royals in ST...And there have been other scenarios. But if Dana White is wanting to legitimate his sport along the lines of MLB NFL NBA NHL then his fights need to be for real.

Just bad for the sport.

Batista might have some connections with White. I remember he was a body guard for some UFC fighter. But CM Punk does he even know any moves or have a background in fighting.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by thabear04

Batista might have some connections with White. I remember he was a body guard for some UFC fighter. But CM Punk does he even know any moves or have a background in fighting.

I don't follow MMA anymore but I do know that Punk's been training BJJ in some capacity for several years. Whether that means anything only time will tell. But this isn't something he's just getting into on a whim. He's been talking about wanting to do MMA for a long time, has as I recall even suggested that he'd probably have gone into MMA rather than wresting if UFC been a bigger draw (i.e. more $$$) when he was coming up. None of which means he won't fall flat on his face.

[Jerm]

Originally Posted by alnorth

Why they hell should they have to announce it before the PPV? If it was actually a PED that could impact the integrity of the competition, then sure, but no one really believes Cocaine a month before a fight is a PED.

He got popped December 4th...more than a month before the fight, he had no business fighting.

If it would've been a low or mid tier level fighter, their asses would've been gone.

Do you really think he stopped using a month before the fight lol? Look at his behavior at the weigh in FFS...it absolutely had an effect on the fight.

[Jerm]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

I don't follow MMA anymore but I do know that Punk's been training BJJ in some capacity for several years. Whether that means anything only time will tell. But this isn't something he's just getting into on a whim. He's been talking about wanting to do MMA for a long time, has as I recall even suggested that he'd probably have gone into MMA rather than wresting if UFC been a bigger draw (i.e. more $$$) when he was coming up. None of which means he won't fall flat on his face.

He's casually been training in Gracie BJJ...he's a white belt.