Home Discord Chat
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > Nzoner's Game Room
Register FAQDonate Members List Calendar

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-23-2020, 10:09 PM  
Dante84 Dante84 is offline
Tossed Salad & Scrambled Eggs
 
Dante84's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: ATX & OPKS
Casino cash: $-38004
VARSITY
*****The Clyde Edwards-Helaire Thread*****

More to come! (I'll clean it up later - info dump into the OP)

(mod edit, all the goodness is in the spoiler tags)
Spoiler!

Last edited by Bearcat; 04-28-2020 at 12:07 PM..
Posts: 20,076
Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2022, 06:31 AM   #3766
MahomesMagic MahomesMagic is offline
Generational Player
 
MahomesMagic's Avatar
 

Join Date: May 2017
Location: Honolulu
Casino cash: $2350400
Quote:
Originally Posted by ThaVirus View Post
He's been a disappointment in a lot of ways, for sure.

He only had 700 yards and 2 TDs last year on 80+ targets. I'm pretty sure he got benched at some point in the season as well, though I doubt the coaching staff would admit it.
I haven’t been disappointed because I didn't have high expectations for him.

He's a useful player but an obvious miss when you consider who else was on the board.
__________________
My Adopt A Chief-Hollywood Brown
Posts: 5,706
MahomesMagic is obviously part of the inner Circle.MahomesMagic is obviously part of the inner Circle.MahomesMagic is obviously part of the inner Circle.MahomesMagic is obviously part of the inner Circle.MahomesMagic is obviously part of the inner Circle.MahomesMagic is obviously part of the inner Circle.MahomesMagic is obviously part of the inner Circle.MahomesMagic is obviously part of the inner Circle.MahomesMagic is obviously part of the inner Circle.MahomesMagic is obviously part of the inner Circle.MahomesMagic is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2022, 10:51 AM   #3767
Rasputin Rasputin is online now
Tip of the hat LIV Champs
 
Rasputin's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: ks
Casino cash: $1775421
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chief Pagan View Post
Those are drive killers that KC's defense can't always make up for.

So of course he takes heat for it.

His yards have gone up each year and I expect last season is probably his floor as far as stats.

He can no doubt make plays, but I don't really trust him when things are on the line. Maybe the mistrust is no longer justified. I hope so.

WTF are you talking about? Hardman has come up clutch in several big time games and i the playoffs. That catch in the back of the endzone against the Saints was clutch as you can get. He redeemed himself after making a muffed punt and Patrick went right back to him and he scored a touchdown I think it was against the Bills the other ear. He did come up big against the Bills with his afterburners against the Bills scoring a touchdown that was ****ing The Flash speed. Hardman is also the one that gave us the spark to make a comeback from 24-0 against the Texans playoff game in the first quarter with his 60+ yard kick off return. Hardman has made clutch for us but he doesn't get credit. Tyreek made more mistakes caused turnovers and literally cost us the AFCCG but he isn't dogged like Hardman. Tyreek has also muffed punts more than once that cost us. No Hardman is not as talented as Tyreek but but he doesn't get the credit for all the good things he has done. I can't believe people here actually root for our guys to fail so they can pound their chest and say I've always said he sucked.

There is no reason not to trust Hardman in the clutch because he has proven he can make the clutch plays. Mahomes problem was he was too locked in on Hill and Hill is a diva wanting the ball for ESPN highlight real.

In 2019 Hardman had 1 drop in 2020 he had 8 and in 2021 he had 2 drops. Tyreek Hill had second most drops in the league.

He is improving every year.
__________________
A Brave Man Once Requested Me
To Answer Questions That Are Key
'Is It To Be Or Not To Be'
And I Replied Oh Why Ask Me
Posts: 55,934
Rasputin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Rasputin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Rasputin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Rasputin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Rasputin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Rasputin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Rasputin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Rasputin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Rasputin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Rasputin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Rasputin is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2022, 11:05 AM   #3768
notorious notorious is online now
Supporter
 
notorious's Avatar
 

Join Date: May 2005
Location: Who knows?
Casino cash: $1055884
This guy was a 1st round pick months after a Superbowl title.


Posts: 85,938
notorious is obviously part of the inner Circle.notorious is obviously part of the inner Circle.notorious is obviously part of the inner Circle.notorious is obviously part of the inner Circle.notorious is obviously part of the inner Circle.notorious is obviously part of the inner Circle.notorious is obviously part of the inner Circle.notorious is obviously part of the inner Circle.notorious is obviously part of the inner Circle.notorious is obviously part of the inner Circle.notorious is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2022, 11:07 AM   #3769
New World Order New World Order is online now
Choco Favre
 

Join Date: Jul 2012
Casino cash: $804765
Quote:
Originally Posted by notorious View Post
This guy was a 1st round pick months after a Superbowl title.




What a horrible pick.
Posts: 30,562
New World Order is obviously part of the inner Circle.New World Order is obviously part of the inner Circle.New World Order is obviously part of the inner Circle.New World Order is obviously part of the inner Circle.New World Order is obviously part of the inner Circle.New World Order is obviously part of the inner Circle.New World Order is obviously part of the inner Circle.New World Order is obviously part of the inner Circle.New World Order is obviously part of the inner Circle.New World Order is obviously part of the inner Circle.New World Order is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2022, 02:38 PM   #3770
Chief Pagan Chief Pagan is offline
Sometimes it's black and white
 
Chief Pagan's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: California
Casino cash: $2394900
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rasputin View Post
WTF are you talking about? Hardman has come up clutch in several big time games and i the playoffs. That catch in the back of the endzone against the Saints was clutch as you can get. He redeemed himself after making a muffed punt and Patrick went right back to him and he scored a touchdown I think it was against the Bills the other ear. He did come up big against the Bills with his afterburners against the Bills scoring a touchdown that was ****ing The Flash speed. Hardman is also the one that gave us the spark to make a comeback from 24-0 against the Texans playoff game in the first quarter with his 60+ yard kick off return. Hardman has made clutch for us but he doesn't get credit. Tyreek made more mistakes caused turnovers and literally cost us the AFCCG but he isn't dogged like Hardman. Tyreek has also muffed punts more than once that cost us. No Hardman is not as talented as Tyreek but but he doesn't get the credit for all the good things he has done. I can't believe people here actually root for our guys to fail so they can pound their chest and say I've always said he sucked.

There is no reason not to trust Hardman in the clutch because he has proven he can make the clutch plays. Mahomes problem was he was too locked in on Hill and Hill is a diva wanting the ball for ESPN highlight real.

In 2019 Hardman had 1 drop in 2020 he had 8 and in 2021 he had 2 drops. Tyreek Hill had second most drops in the league.

He is improving every year.
Yes, he has made some big plays and he absolutely deserves credit fir those.

Maybe he turned a corner when I wasn't paying attention. But it's been clear in the past that Mahomes has been frustrated with him. So it's not that he's never open, has too many drops, or never makes a clutch catch. But he has certainly been slow to develop chemistry with Mahomes. Hence my comment about him not being a player you can trust. More about being in sync than an issue of drops.

I agree he has improved and since he is the only real WR that isn't learning the playbook, I hope he starts the season out great.
__________________
Sometimes.
Posts: 6,507
Chief Pagan Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Chief Pagan Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Chief Pagan Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Chief Pagan Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Chief Pagan Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Chief Pagan Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Chief Pagan Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Chief Pagan Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Chief Pagan Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Chief Pagan Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Chief Pagan Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.
    Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2022, 10:11 AM   #3771
BWillie BWillie is offline
The End of All Your Dreams
 
BWillie's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2006
Casino cash: $571241
Kareem Hunt averaged 4.6 ypc with Mahomes

Clyde Edwards-Helaire averages 4.4 yoc with Mahomes.

Is it really that big of a difference? Perhaps Kareem was a tad overrated and Clyde a bit underrated. Kareem definitely better but by how big of a margin?
Posts: 49,059
BWillie is obviously part of the inner Circle.BWillie is obviously part of the inner Circle.BWillie is obviously part of the inner Circle.BWillie is obviously part of the inner Circle.BWillie is obviously part of the inner Circle.BWillie is obviously part of the inner Circle.BWillie is obviously part of the inner Circle.BWillie is obviously part of the inner Circle.BWillie is obviously part of the inner Circle.BWillie is obviously part of the inner Circle.BWillie is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2022, 10:14 AM   #3772
TEX TEX is offline
Out Gunning CP's Fandom Police
 
TEX's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Galveston, TX
Casino cash: $573127
Quote:
Originally Posted by BWillie View Post
Kareem Hunt averaged 4.6 ypc with Mahomes

Clyde Edwards-Helaire averages 4.4 yoc with Mahomes.

Is it really that big of a difference? Perhaps Kareem was a tad overrated and Clyde a bit underrated. Kareem definitely better but by how big of a margin?
By a lot. Just compare their runs near the goal line.
__________________
"The CHIEFS, HAVE THEIR DYNASTY!"
Posts: 35,932
TEX has disabled reputation
    Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2022, 10:35 AM   #3773
Megatron96 Megatron96 is online now
Suupraa Geniuuusss
 
Megatron96's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: North Phoenix, AZ
Casino cash: $80400
Just curious: how many times did defenders get penetration and meet our RBs behind the LoS? Seemed like constantly, but my memory might be a little off.
__________________
“Some ideas are so stupid only intellectuals believe them.”- George Orwell


Steven "Spags" Spagnuolo is my Adopt-A-Chief!!!
Posts: 32,706
Megatron96 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Megatron96 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Megatron96 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Megatron96 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Megatron96 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Megatron96 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Megatron96 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Megatron96 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Megatron96 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Megatron96 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Megatron96 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2022, 10:47 AM   #3774
DJ's left nut DJ's left nut is offline
Sauntering Vaguely Downwards
 
DJ's left nut's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Columbia, Mo
Casino cash: $1169099
Maybe it looked different on television, but that 2nd down run (2nd and 2ish?) on the Chiefs last drive of the game, there was a hole there and CEH got taken down by a guy just falling to the ground, no?

He just didn't get through that hole with any authority and all so it closed up backside on him. Instead he loses has balance because Crosby's foot hit him in the thigh pad. If he hits that hole hard he has a lane to the outside where he can at least get Diablo to half a man and power through him to the sticks.

A quality RB converts that play - it's exactly the difference between a good RB and a fungible one. Clyde is just fungible.
__________________
"If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..."

"When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
Posts: 63,195
DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2022, 10:50 AM   #3775
jd1020 jd1020 is offline
In Search of a Life
 

Join Date: Nov 2010
Casino cash: $7392645
Quote:
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut View Post
Maybe it looked different on television, but that 2nd down run (2nd and 2ish?) on the Chiefs last drive of the game, there was a hole there and CEH got taken down by a guy just falling to the ground, no?

He just didn't get through that hole with any authority and all so it closed up backside on him. Instead he loses has balance because Crosby's foot hit him in the thigh pad. If he hits that hole hard he has a lane to the outside where he can at least get Diablo to half a man and power through him to the sticks.

A quality RB converts that play - it's exactly the difference between a good RB and a fungible one. Clyde is just fungible.
Talking about the 3rd and 3 when he ran right? I thought he got tripped up by the DE that fell, but then he got tackled by a LB because he lost his balance. But there was no angle that showed exactly what happened when he went through the hole. I thought someone from the OL threw their hands up in a reaction to "Where is the tripping flag?"
Posts: 24,420
jd1020 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.jd1020 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.jd1020 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.jd1020 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.jd1020 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.jd1020 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.jd1020 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.jd1020 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.jd1020 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.jd1020 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.jd1020 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.
    Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2022, 10:51 AM   #3776
suzzer99 suzzer99 is offline
In Search of a Life
 
suzzer99's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: L.A.
Casino cash: $1134284
2nd and 3.

Even if CEH just makes a play and gets a yard or two, that drastically changes third down, and makes it more likely to go on 4th if we run it on 3rd.
Posts: 27,723
suzzer99 is obviously part of the inner Circle.suzzer99 is obviously part of the inner Circle.suzzer99 is obviously part of the inner Circle.suzzer99 is obviously part of the inner Circle.suzzer99 is obviously part of the inner Circle.suzzer99 is obviously part of the inner Circle.suzzer99 is obviously part of the inner Circle.suzzer99 is obviously part of the inner Circle.suzzer99 is obviously part of the inner Circle.suzzer99 is obviously part of the inner Circle.suzzer99 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2022, 10:56 AM   #3777
KChiefs1 KChiefs1 is offline
I’m a Mahomo!
 
KChiefs1's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Mid-Missouri
Casino cash: $6771021
Quote:
Originally Posted by TEX View Post
By a lot. Just compare their runs near the goal line.

Just watch how Hunt attacks it & CEH doesn’t. The eyes don’t lie when watching the difference between them.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
__________________
Posts: 54,038
KChiefs1 is obviously part of the inner Circle.KChiefs1 is obviously part of the inner Circle.KChiefs1 is obviously part of the inner Circle.KChiefs1 is obviously part of the inner Circle.KChiefs1 is obviously part of the inner Circle.KChiefs1 is obviously part of the inner Circle.KChiefs1 is obviously part of the inner Circle.KChiefs1 is obviously part of the inner Circle.KChiefs1 is obviously part of the inner Circle.KChiefs1 is obviously part of the inner Circle.KChiefs1 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2022, 10:57 AM   #3778
htismaqe htismaqe is offline
'Tis my eye!
 
htismaqe's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Chiefsplanet
Casino cash: $9839900
Who ****ing cares about Kareem ****ing Hunt?
Posts: 100,206
htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.
Thumbs Up 1 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2022, 10:58 AM   #3779
jd1020 jd1020 is offline
In Search of a Life
 

Join Date: Nov 2010
Casino cash: $7392645
Quote:
Originally Posted by htismaqe View Post
Who ****ing cares about Kareem ****ing Hunt?
We could use a kicker til Butker returns.
Posts: 24,420
jd1020 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.jd1020 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.jd1020 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.jd1020 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.jd1020 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.jd1020 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.jd1020 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.jd1020 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.jd1020 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.jd1020 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.jd1020 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.
Thumbs Up 2 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2022, 11:06 AM   #3780
DJ's left nut DJ's left nut is offline
Sauntering Vaguely Downwards
 
DJ's left nut's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Columbia, Mo
Casino cash: $1169099
Quote:
Originally Posted by jd1020 View Post
Talking about the 3rd and 3 when he ran right? I thought he got tripped up by the DE that fell, but then he got tackled by a LB because he lost his balance. But there was no angle that showed exactly what happened when he went through the hole. I thought someone from the OL threw their hands up in a reaction to "Where is the tripping flag?"
Yeah, that's the one (2nd and 3, though - the 3rd and 3 play was that ill-thought deep ball to Mecole).

They showed an angle from the back at the stadium. Crosby was going down and his foot came up into Clyde's leg and because of that he lost his balance and Diablo brought him down.

But it wasn't like he got drilled. It just struck me as the kind of contact that a guy running powerfully and decisively can run through. Clyde just doesn't do that very often.
__________________
"If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..."

"When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
Posts: 63,195
DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.
Thumbs Up 1 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:40 PM.


This is a test for a client's site.
Fort Worth Texas Process Servers
Covering Arlington, Fort Worth, Grand Prairie and surrounding communities.
Tarrant County, Texas and Johnson County, Texas.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.