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*****The Patrick Mahomes Thread*****
IT ****ING HAPPENED
OP UPDATE: Because of all the interest in this thread, I've place all of the video content of Patrick Mahomes II's college career, and draft day goodness into a single post that can be found here. Enjoy! Last edited by Dante84; 05-17-2017 at 09:40 AM.. |
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You run the ball so that defenses aren't in all out rush the passer every down with zero discipline to respecting the prospect of a running back having the ball.
If a defense can literally pin it's ears back on every single rush your quarterback will have almost no deep drops and downfield progression plays that take time to develop don't get the time to. In the end the QB gets hurt or ball gets knocked out or intercepted. When a defense HAS to engage the offensive line to plug gaps for a perceived run threat, thats 2-3 fewer players on their way to Patrick Mahomes. We'd like to keep it that way I think. |
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I’m good with whatever Andy Reid wants to do
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That's right. Pat has mentioned this before that his arms never gets tired. He is an alien freak for a reason.
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His dad's genes help a lot. The guy recovers from injuries faster than most. It's unusual in modern sports.
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Sure genetics plays a role but you also have Jackson with those same genetics.
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I dont think your analogy works here. You're suggesting we should never run the football. But teams in the NBA still shoot 2's. Obviously they shoot more 3's than they ever have, but they still shoot 2's because its still an effective method of scoring. Similarly, running the ball is still effective. It shouldn't ever be what an NFL offense relies on, but its still effective in the right situations. Just because Mahomes is otherworldly on guaranteed passing downs doesn't necessarily mean we should increase that sample size.
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IMO Andy actually throws TOO much on 3rd and short and 4th and short. It's why we were the worst team in football last year on 3rd and short. We should be dialing up a ton of QB sneaks WITH PATRICK MAHOMES on the field and using some semblance of a power running scheme in these situations and then yes also passing quite a bit as well. Then on 2nd and 1 you can REALLY **** with teams if you run the ball more because you can do some big time play actions to throw absolute bombs but we like to do alot of gadget/finesse stuff in these situations rather than attack.
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The rules, the athletes, and the game how it is played now all favor passing the ball to a point where it is so much more important than running it. It's one of the reasons GM's are finally getting smart and not paying RBs.
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I am also of the mindset that we don’t need to run as much as we do but I also accept that with better RB play it’s not as annoying or detrimental and has its legitimate uses. The problem with running the ball post Hunt and pre Pacheco (Williams was okay) was that in those seasons not only was there almost no threat of even a 10 yard gain, the running game was just so bad that we really would have been better off never running at all. That’s not true at this point it would seem.
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This last offseason Andy fully completed the transition from a hybrid Spread/WCO to a new age West Coast Offense. Teams have to accept we are getting easy yards down after down. If they decide to stop getting punched in the face with Pacheco running 7 yards or Moore for 8 yards then Mahomes is going to go back to doing what he loves: bombs away and then its even WORSE for them.
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