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Old 09-22-2020, 09:08 AM   #37546
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Old 09-22-2020, 09:17 AM   #37547
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Lawrence has had nothing but nfl players all around him who would often take his basic throws and create major yac from them. He had one good season where he took folks by surprise...the moment people got tape on him his ints increased dramatically amd he was poor against Ohio and especially LSU.

Also Big Ben is a good call but he's unique with the weight he carries. The fact is skinny 6'5 qbs have NEVER been great in this league..so we'll see if he can buck that trend.
The Ohio State game actually speaks highly of Lawrence though, it was a game against elite competition where things didn't go right. He sucked it up and brought his team back for a win.
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Old 09-22-2020, 09:33 AM   #37548
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Lawrence has had nothing but nfl players all around him who would often take his basic throws and create major yac from them. He had one good season where he took folks by surprise...the moment people got tape on him his ints increased dramatically amd he was poor against Ohio and especially LSU.
Ken Dorsey on the early 2000’s Miami teams is the example of what you are describing above.

Lawrence makes NFL-caliber throws/reads.
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Old 09-22-2020, 09:36 AM   #37549
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The Ohio State game actually speaks highly of Lawrence though, it was a game against elite competition where things didn't go right. He sucked it up and brought his team back for a win.
Fields should have won that game in the end but lost his nerve...the force fumble reverse was also a massive moment. Lawrence didn't deserve to be in the final imo.
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Fields should have won that game in the end but lost his nerve...the force fumble reverse was also a massive moment. Lawrence didn't deserve to be in the final imo.
Josh Fields is the one who is going to have a harder time transitioning to NFL play.
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I don’t really understand what people see in him. I like Trey Lance a lot more.
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Old 09-22-2020, 11:40 AM   #37553
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What's the fear with Lawrence? He got exposed in the last championship game and we have Mahomes...period. And if folks can name me an all time great qb in the nfl who was 6'5 i'd love to know.
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Yeah and that one meets the 'all time great' qualifier and who knows, but Big Ben may qualify with that one as well when his career is over.

Others, that aren't all-time great, but have won SBs or have had nice long careers are Carson Palmer, Rivers, Newton, Flacco and I'm sure there are a few others.
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Until more Kyler Murray types don’t pan out like Kyler Murray, the league will continue to believe that guys who play a vaguely similar style will pan out that way.
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