Let's talk about the Bills - AFC Championship Edition

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[TwistedChief]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Bruh you literally had an avatar making fun of them just a couple years ago because you had really started to hate them after the Hamlin shit. WTF happened? Lol.

You beat me to this! I'm so confused. DJ was spitting venom toward the Bills.

I don't mind Buffalo at all. I actually like Josh Allen and love the way he plays. They have a good fanbase, they're a small market team, and they've had years of heartache. At the playoff game last year their fans were - with the exception of one guy - completely friendly and gracious.

But yeah, like DJ, I thought they'd be the better matchup for us so I'm happy we get to meet them again.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by TheGuardian

This game really makes me nervous.

I think the defense can hold Buffalo to 24 or less, the issue is, the offense is bi-polar and def came out rusty this past weekend for sure.

If we get the offense we saw in Pitt or in the first Texans game, that would be great. But the offense has just sputtered most of the year, then found a way in the 4th.

The problem was, when the defense wasn't stopping the Bills the sputtering on offense means we lost by 9.

This game will be tougher than the SB because neither the Commanders or Eagles are as good as the Bills. This is it.

This offense is as healthy as it has ever been this season. Buffalo does not have the pass rushers or secondary to defend KC like the Texans did. I expect KC to score enough to win, but they won’t be the 2018 version of this offense.

[Rainbarrel]

Originally Posted by 493rd

You said it. If the Chiefs lose to Buffalo it seems likely they go on to win the SB. People don’t wanna acknowledge it but they’re the most complete team left and Josh Allen is unbelievably hard to stop. It would suck seeing them hoist the Lamar Hunt trophy in Arrowhead but if it happens I won’t be watching so **** them. Chiefs will need their “A” game to beat them.

Stephon Diggs should be required to watch in attendance, either way. EVERYBODY wins

[493rd]

Originally Posted by TwistedChief

You beat me to this! I'm so confused. DJ was spitting venom toward the Bills.

I don't mind Buffalo at all. I actually like Josh Allen and love the way he plays. They have a good fanbase, they're a small market team, and they've had years of heartache. At the playoff game last year their fans were - with the exception of one guy - completely friendly and gracious.

But yeah, like DJ, I thought they'd be the better matchup for us so I'm happy we get to meet them again.

Why did you think Buffalo would be the better matchup?

[mr. tegu]

This is the worst defense we will have played since the Raiders five games ago. I still don’t see why we don’t score at least 30 points unless we just don’t need it or have too many self inflicted mistakes. I get we haven’t been doing that but between the healthiest and most complete we’ve been on offense all season and a presumed backlog of effective plays we’ve been saving we should be able to move the ball with great frequency.

[SD15]

Hollywood Brown & Deandre Hopkins had 0 catches against the Texans. Andy will turn them loose against Buffaloes. Success!!!

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Bruh you literally had an avatar making fun of them just a couple years ago because you had really started to hate them after the Hamlin shit. WTF happened? Lol.

I know. But then I realized that I still hate the Bengals fans more than them in all that.

Yes, I'm always going to mock their Vaginitis for that whole Hamlin thing. And I still laugh when I see that guy playing for them because he is BAD at football and the only reason they haven't cut him is because of the PR blowback (they KNEW he was bad at football before he died on the field, now they just pretend he isn't).

But there isn't a franchise/fanbase in sports with a closer parallel to the 2017 version of the KC Chiefs and their fans. Right down to their hatred of New England (I mean c'mon, throwing dildoes at Brady is just classic).

They'd be our cousins to the East if we didn't have to go through them. And vice versa -- they embraced us as the guys to end the Patriots dynasty until we actually did it.

Of them, Baltimore and Cincy, it's just not a close question. To say nothing of our Division rivals. They're just much less hateable than those guys.

[Sassy Squatch]

Originally Posted by SD15

Hollywood Brown & Deandre Hopkins had 0 catches against the Texans. Andy will turn them loose against Buffaloes. Success!!!

Hope so. That Buffalo defensive backfield is horrendous. May be the worst one we've ever seen in the playoffs, especially if Rapp is out and Johnson is still nursing whatever happened to his shoulder.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by 493rd

You said it. If the Chiefs lose to Buffalo it seems likely they go on to win the SB. People don’t wanna acknowledge it but they’re the most complete team left and Josh Allen is unbelievably hard to stop. It would suck seeing them hoist the Lamar Hunt trophy in Arrowhead but if it happens I won’t be watching so **** them. Chiefs will need their “A” game to beat them.

Buffalo is not the most complete team left. KC, despite being weak at LT does not really have many weaknesses. Philly is also solid in all phases. Josh Allen is very difficult to stop, I do agree with that. But so is Mahomes and I will take the guy who has three SB rings and a 16-3 playoff record until someone knocks him off.

[RunKC]

Bills safeties are a rookie and Hamlin now that Rapp is out. Huge mismatch. Their DL is good but not anywhere close to the Texans. 3rd down defense is one of the worst in the league. They don’t have a big time star like a Chris Jones or Trent McDufffie.

I think we are going to go off on these guys. The opportunities are going to be there. A lot. The offense is gonna be lethal against these guys.

Ravens made tons of mistakes that kept them from scoring 30+ points and that’s exactly what the Bills do. They play Alex Smith ball but run it far more.

Get up on these guys early, force them to pass and we win by 10+ points.

They rely on turnovers. They rely on the run game.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by TheGuardian

This game really makes me nervous.

I think the defense can hold Buffalo to 24 or less, the issue is, the offense is bi-polar and def came out rusty this past weekend for sure.

If we get the offense we saw in Pitt or in the first Texans game, that would be great. But the offense has just sputtered most of the year, then found a way in the 4th.

The problem was, when the defense wasn't stopping the Bills the sputtering on offense means we lost by 9.

This game will be tougher than the SB because neither the Commanders or Eagles are as good as the Bills. This is it.

The team just looked so vanilla in that matchup, though.

But yeah - ain't gonna have a good time next week if Brown and Hopkins get shutout and 90% of our receiving yards to our WRs comes on throws behind the LOS.

The offense has to be better. I just don't know at this point what to say about it. My position has been all year that it's Mahomes that makes it all make sense, for good and bad. When the offense isn't good, it's largely because he isn't. When it's good, it's because he is.

And what decides if he's good or isn't is just a complete wild-ass guess at this point.

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Originally Posted by InChiefsHeaven

Interestingly, the Ravens outgained the Bills in pretty much every stat, much like the Texans did with the Chiefs. Yet, Bills and Chiefs win. Why? Because their opponents made a shit ton of mistakes and basically ****ed themselves...as they usually do.

So, the Chiefs and the Bills are by any measure the best 2 teams in the AFC. The margins are slim. When it comes down to it, who usually finds a way to win, and who usually finds a way to lose?

Chiefs are going to the Superbowl again.

The games really weren't comparable at all.

Houston outgained KC because they had two more drives. Basically three more because the first Chiefs drive started at the 13.

KC averaged about 3.3 points per drive and Houston 1.5. Yards per drive were about the same. Chiefs had a bunch of return yardage.

The Bills were basically dominated by Baltimore and lucked out thanks to TOs and dropped passes.

[ChiTown]

Originally Posted by SD15

Hollywood Brown & Deandre Hopkins had 0 catches against the Texans. Andy will turn them loose against Buffaloes. Success!!!

Was it a function of turning them loose or deciding who you are going to let beat you? The way the Texans covered Kelce (or better, didn’t cover him) kinda answers that, IMO. It’s like they took away DHop and Hollywood and said beat us with the old Man and the rookie…and we did. I don’t know. Maybe I’m way off on that analysis.

[Rainbarrel]

Last night instead of choking, Josh got choked(literally)at the goal line. Subliminal message time!

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by tredadda

Buffalo is not the most complete team left. KC, despite being weak at LT does not really have many weaknesses. Philly is also solid in all phases. Josh Allen is very difficult to stop, I do agree with that. But so is Mahomes and I will take the guy who has three SB rings and a 16-3 playoff record until someone knocks him off.

Yeah I don’t get that at all. As far as complete teams they are easily behind us and the Eagles. Their defense is bad, mostly relying on other teams committing turnovers to even be relevant, and their WR group has no one that presents any elite challenge.