MELLINGER: Should The Chiefs Move On From Smith?

[OnTheWarpath15]

Yep, another Alex Smith thread - but a solid and fair read from Sam Mellinger.

The only way forward is through brutal honesty and realistic self-evaluation. No sport moves as quickly, or with such little empathy, as the NFL.

Only fools assume what happened in the past will continue to happen in the future, unless that assumption is “the Patriots will win every year from now until armageddon because Bill Belichick is an alien.”

And so it is that this particular group of Chiefs players and executives attempt to solve a puzzle that no group of Chiefs players and executives has solved since 1970, which is so long ago CBS erased the tape to save money:

Get to the Super Bowl.

And it’s hard to believe that will happen without addressing the quarterback situation.

This is not a call for the Chiefs to walk away from Alex Smith, even though this is the first offseason since his arrival in which they could do it without a fatal salary cap hit. This is a call for them to look, to try, to make sure they don’t have access to a better option — whether that’s Tony Romo in a trade, Deshaun Watson in the draft (which would almost certainly require a trade up), or anything else.

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt...#storylink=cpy

[Chief Roundup]

The answer is not at this moment but we should be preparing to move on in the next couple of years.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

The answer is not at this moment but we should be preparing to move on in the next couple of years.

Yep. Under no circumstances should he get another contract extension, but he's still almost certainly going to be under center next year.

[Black Bob]

Originally Posted by DaFace

Yep. Under no circumstances should he get another contract extension, but he's still almost certainly going to be under center next year.

Yep, that's definitely the reality of our situation. However, a year from now I think we can get rid of him without losing much money...

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by DaFace

While I suppose it's interesting to see individual plays broken down, I'm not sure what this actually adds to the conversation. The Tyreek miss was pretty egregious, but the rest of them are mostly just plays that elite players make and mediocre players don't. If you were to pull film from other mediocre QB's, you'd see a lot of the same.

Alex isn't elite. This is known. Beyond that, I'm not sure what else there is to discuss.

welp, this isn't going to end well for you.


Word of advice, dodge the pitchforks and duck the torches. Just sayin'

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by ChiTown

Look, I'm not an Alex Smith fan, but he's hardly a pussy. I just don't think he's ever going to be "THE GUY" for a team that desperately needs "THE GUY" to be their QB. Above and beyond that, the bigger problem continues to be our HC that fancies himself to be a great play-caller . I'd much rather address and fix that problem first. In other words, find a competant OC, and leave the play calling to him. JMHO

He sat out for not having a concussion. His decision.

[stumppy]

I just figured something out and it should explain some of Alex's actions during the game.
You can not throw a pass for a hidden TD unless you are scrambling from a hidden pass rush.

[New World Order]

Any 'setting up the punter' stats?

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by New World Order

Any 'setting up the punter' stats?

Yup. 41.8% efficiency.

KC had 182 possessions this year, including special teams return touchdowns (3 - 1.6%).

KC punted 76 times (41.8%)
KC scored a TD (offensive only) 34 times (18.7%)
KC scored a FG 32 times (17.6%)
KC turned the ball over on an INT or FUM 17 times (9.3%)
KC turned the ball over on downs or via missed FG try 7 times (3.8%)
KC had other changes of possession (QB kneel down or half ended) 13 times (7.1%)

KC averaged 11.38 possessions per game
KC averaged 2.13 TDs (offensive only) per game
KC averaged 2.00 FGs per game
KC averaged 1.06 turnovers per game
KC averaged 0.44 other turnovers per game
KC averaged 0.81 other changes of possession per game

Other info: KC averaged time of possession per game was 30:36, yielding an average time per possession of 2:41.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by BeaverEater

There is a lot to discuss with the group of idiots here that don't think Alex had anything to do with the loss. (I'm looking at YOU, Tiger)

Or who say, "That just happens. All QBs miss throws and don't see wide open guys during the course of the game" and then proceed to make excuses for Alex because the players around him dropped a couple passes missed assignments on D, and had bad snaps against blitzers.

You know, things that happen during the course of a game to ALL freakin players...

[Mr. Plow]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

https://www.reddit.com/r/KansasCityC...kdown_of_alex/

I'd like to say this is new stuff, but Smith has been doing crap like that for a long time.

[Red Dawg]

I can't believe anyone thinks we can't move on from Alex right now. We can and if Dorsey doesn't he's is really fugging up bad on a Pioli level shoving Smith down our throats when he clearly sucks.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy

I can't believe anyone thinks we can't move on from Alex right now. We can and if Dorsey doesn't he's is really fugging up bad on a Pioli level shoving Smith down our throats when he clearly sucks.

-They were all over Paxton Lynch last year and apparently had interest in moving up for him.
-There was a rumor from B/R that the Chiefs are judging what Alex does in the 2nd half of the season to see if they want to move on.
-His cap # is rising and he's clearly starting to decline.
-Andy moved on from McNabb at the same age when he started to decline.

I think they are going to look hard for his replacement this spring.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy

I can't believe anyone thinks we can't move on from Alex right now. We can and if Dorsey doesn't he's is really fugging up bad on a Pioli level shoving Smith down our throats when he clearly sucks.

Andy Reid doesn't work for John Dorsey.

Hunt set up the system so that they are equals, answerable to Hunt.

Dorsey and Reid have to work together, and if Reid is still happy with Smith, then we are stuck with Smith.

As much as I'd love to see the Chiefs move on from Smith, it's better for the team long term if they reach that decision mutually.

[Rasputin]

Originally Posted by Black Bob

Yep, that's definitely the reality of our situation. However, a year from now I think we can get rid of him without losing much money...

Unfortunately I think this is the case we will most certainly be stuck with Alex Smith another year. The positive is we can work on this offensive line and what ever else is needed and so that next year we can go all in for a draft pick QBotf and he should have a O-line stable enough to let him be comfortable with.

Dallas worked on their O-line and their rookie quarterback was much better off for it.

As much as I want to draft a quarterback I think another year of building an O-line is the way to go. I still want to draft a quarterback though for competition and a chance he can be really good.

[Rasputin]

Now that we have a speedster to stretch the field having a solid O-line will only help to get the quarterback to throw it deep. Not wanting Alex Smith but no excuses either. If we can just hold out another year without any of us jumping off a bridge or bullet to the head I think we will finally get our first round draft pick 2018.

I want to believe in something other than unicorns and fairy tails.