***** Official '24/'25 KU Men's BBall Repository Thread *****

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[RaidersOftheCellar]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

#CUBuffs head coach Tad Boyle: "Post defense is not for pussies. It is for men. You have to be a grown men to play post defense on Hunter Dickinson."

— Oliver Hayes (@ocuhayes) February 25, 2025

Wtf?

[Mr. Plow]

Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar

Because it's the only full game he's missed at KU?

And the rosters were completely different outside of, I think, 3 people.

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

And the rosters were completely different outside of, I think, 3 people.

I was responding to the claim that Dickinson makes the team worse. Are you suggesting he makes this team worse but not last year's? What do you think this team's record and offensive output would be without Dickinson?

[Mr. Plow]

Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar

I was responding to the claim that Dickinson makes the team worse. Are you suggesting he makes this team worse but not last year's? What do you think this team's record and offensive output would be without Dickinson?

I've never said that he makes the team worse being on the floor, and we certainly want him out there. I've said from the beginning he isn't the problem on this team.

You're using a random game from last season to try to prove a point that nobody else is arguing.

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

I've never said that he makes the team worse being on the floor, and we certainly want him out there. I've said from the beginning he isn't the problem on this team.

You're using a random game from last season to try to prove a point that nobody else is arguing.

He said that Dickinson makes his teams worse, and BWillie has said the team would be as good or better without him. Which is asinine.

[Bearcat]

When the point being made for months now has "he makes everyone around him a little worse" when he plays lazy ball, it's just an awful leap in logic to take a game without him and say "hey, they didn't have HIS 15 points/10 rebounds!".

Uh, we aren't talking about HIS stats and how they apply to the final score, we're talking about him dragging down everyone else.

If you have a slug on defense, of course it's going to make everyone look bad when you're 4 on 5... if the one guy you're feeding the ball is not getting position or not going hard to the basket, of course that's going to take away from assists and so forth.

You' basically have to take performance with and without him, then subtract his points/rebounds/etc from it, because nobody is arguing the NET product is worse. The entire damn offense runs through him, of course it'll be worse when he's not even there.

And then when he busts his ass, guys are picking up more assists or easy buckets, playing better overall defense, etc.... pretty obvious stuff.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

When the point being made for months now has "he makes everyone around him a little worse" when he plays lazy ball, it's just an awful leap in logic to take a game without him and say "hey, they didn't have HIS 15 points/10 rebounds!".

Uh, we aren't talking about HIS stats and how they apply to the final score, we're talking about him dragging down everyone else.

If you have a slug on defense, of course it's going to make everyone look bad when you're 4 on 5... if the one guy you're feeding the ball is not getting position or not going hard to the basket, of course that's going to take away from assists and so forth.

You' basically have to take performance with and without him, then subtract his points/rebounds/etc from it, because nobody is arguing the NET product is worse. The entire damn offense runs through him, of course it'll be worse when he's not even there.

And then when he busts his ass, guys are picking up more assists or easy buckets, playing better overall defense, etc.... pretty obvious stuff.

They literally don't have a functional offense if he's not on the floor (and they only barely do when he is, because teams don't guard KJ Adams) and the numbers show they're better defensively when he's on the floor as well. Again, just a bizarre level of criticism for a top 3 player in the NCAA.

[KC_Connection]

Would it be better if Dickinson clapped his hands or slapped the floor like KJ does sometimes? Would that make people think he's trying?

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Would it be better if Dickinson clapped his hands or slapped the floor like KJ does sometimes? Would that make people think he's trying?

KJ is the epitome of effort.

How dare you.

How dare you question his tire sized heart.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

They literally don't have a functional offense if he's not on the floor (and they only barely do when he is, because teams don't guard KJ Adams) and the numbers show they're better defensively when he's on the floor as well. Again, just a bizarre level of criticism for a top 3 player in the NCAA.

Me: It has nothing to do with whether Dickinson is on the floor.

You: bUt WhEn He'S nOt On ThE fLoOr



I need to stop calling you KCWillie... sorry, B, I should have given you more credit.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

Me: It has nothing to do with whether Dickinson is on the floor.

You: bUt WhEn He'S nOt On ThE fLoOr



I need to stop calling you KCWillie... sorry, B, I should have given you more credit.

The team being horrific when Dickinson is off the floor seems kind of relevant to assessing whether Dickinson is a positive to the team.

[KC_Connection]

For me, I prefer to use actual stats and facts when evaluating players rather than perceptions of their effort level. Crazy, I know.

[KC_Connection]

Just talked to Kansas coach Bill Self about any speculation that he might retire after the season or anytime soon.

“That’s not true at all,” he told @TheFieldOf68.

— Jeff Goodman (@GoodmanHoops) February 26, 2025

Won't retire when he could potentially coach KJ for another year.

[RockChalk]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Just talked to Kansas coach Bill Self about any speculation that he might retire after the season or anytime soon.

“That’s not true at all,” he told @TheFieldOf68.

— Jeff Goodman (@GoodmanHoops) February 26, 2025

Won't retire when he could potentially coach KJ for another year.

They didn't list the full quote.

"That's not true at all. I plan to coach at KU another 10 years so long as the NCAA grants KJ liftetime college athletics eligibility like we petitioned"

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

The team being horrific when Dickinson is off the floor seems kind of relevant to assessing whether Dickinson is a positive to the team.

Who said he's not a net positive to the team?

The entire team is built around a guy who can walk onto the court and get a double double, of course they're better off with him.