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Old 04-08-2014, 09:58 AM  
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Rasslin is YES! YES! YES!
Last thread has well over 10,000 replies. Its body is breaking down like The Undertaker's. Seeing as we might have crossed the threshold into a new era in the business, here's a fresh new thread.

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Old 11-04-2019, 06:55 AM   #3706
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REALLY bad look for Vince to have been the first to leave, regardless if he knew already that the talent was being grounded or not.
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Old 11-07-2019, 03:34 PM   #3707
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And still no one knows at this point...

Also probably time to admit that this isn't a WWE problem it's a wrestling problem, there just aren't that many fans these days..




No one going to AEW shows either.
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Old 11-07-2019, 04:33 PM   #3708
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That was the smallest crowd they had, was kind of know...Meltzer was talking about it on WOR this morning.

Shit there are so many options to stream and consume wrestling, it's no surprise no one goes to live events any more.
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Old 11-07-2019, 04:35 PM   #3709
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And still no one knows at this point...

Also probably time to admit that this isn't a WWE problem it's a wrestling problem, there just aren't that many fans these days..




No one going to AEW shows either.
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Old 11-07-2019, 06:02 PM   #3710
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And still no one knows at this point...

Also probably time to admit that this isn't a WWE problem it's a wrestling problem, there just aren't that many fans these days..




No one going to AEW shows either.
NXT and AEW combined don't get the viewership of TNA 10 years ago.

Most former wrestling fans (like me) don't watch this stupid shit and haven't for over a decade. Too much winking at the camera, too much obvious cooperation, too much no selling, too many big moves that mean nothing, and the goddamn promos are WAY too long far too often.

It can't even present an ILLUSION of competitiveness anymore. It's a cottage industry and most of the audience are just old guys who are hyper obsessed about 'workrate' and 'mic skills' and judging the product like a ****ing broadway musical. Barely any women or young fans compared to 30 years ago to boot. A LOT of 50 year old dudes though...

Back in the 90's when I was a teenI attended parties with some friends where we'd all watch Monday Nitro every week. Party was hosted by a girl and her mom. Only myself and one other guy watched with them. We'd get into the show and cheer for our favorites. NOw it's just a bunch of middle age dudes sitting back judging the product. It's not fun anymore. It's just become something people watch to complain about.
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Old 11-07-2019, 06:19 PM   #3711
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NXT and AEW combined don't get the viewership of TNA 10 years ago.

Most former wrestling fans (like me) don't watch this stupid shit and haven't for over a decade. Too much winking at the camera, too much obvious cooperation, too much no selling, too many big moves that mean nothing, and the goddamn promos are WAY too long far too often.

It can't even present an ILLUSION of competitiveness anymore. It's a cottage industry and most of the audience are just old guys who are hyper obsessed about 'workrate' and 'mic skills' and judging the product like a ****ing broadway musical. Barely any women or young fans compared to 30 years ago to boot. A LOT of 50 year old dudes though...

Back in the 90's when I was a teenI attended parties with some friends where we'd all watch Monday Nitro every week. Party was hosted by a girl and her mom. Only myself and one other guy watched with them. We'd get into the show and cheer for our favorites. NOw it's just a bunch of middle age dudes sitting back judging the product. It's not fun anymore. It's just become something people watch to complain about.
Just for the other side of the coin....guys my age...60 and older...don't watch wrestling anymore because there is nothing entertaining about it. The storylines are crap....and having wrestlers come and go (Cena, Rock, Lesner, etc) leaves no one to either learn to despise or go fanboy on. And now everyone wants to make themselves popular by going off script.

And WWE seems to regale in screwing a good thing up. And honestly they have such weird angles...

How much must we have to put up with seeing a "Corporate " persona be involved in being the Evil Empire.....it is old and way overdone.

There is so much about the wrestling world that turns off people....
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Old 11-07-2019, 06:38 PM   #3712
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The sad thing is from a ring stand point the talent has never been better. The characters are just not good so no one cares to be invested.
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Old 11-07-2019, 07:19 PM   #3713
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Old 11-07-2019, 07:40 PM   #3714
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NXT and AEW combined don't get the viewership of TNA 10 years ago.

Most former wrestling fans (like me) don't watch this stupid shit and haven't for over a decade. Too much winking at the camera, too much obvious cooperation, too much no selling, too many big moves that mean nothing, and the goddamn promos are WAY too long far too often.

It can't even present an ILLUSION of competitiveness anymore. It's a cottage industry and most of the audience are just old guys who are hyper obsessed about 'workrate' and 'mic skills' and judging the product like a ****ing broadway musical. Barely any women or young fans compared to 30 years ago to boot. A LOT of 50 year old dudes though...

Back in the 90's when I was a teenI attended parties with some friends where we'd all watch Monday Nitro every week. Party was hosted by a girl and her mom. Only myself and one other guy watched with them. We'd get into the show and cheer for our favorites. NOw it's just a bunch of middle age dudes sitting back judging the product. It's not fun anymore. It's just become something people watch to complain about.
All your reasons are exactly why I love New Japan and it's the company I watch religiously and really follow.

I get what you're saying...
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Old 11-07-2019, 08:22 PM   #3715
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The sad thing is from a ring stand point the talent has never been better. The characters are just not good so no one cares to be invested.
The problem too...they seem to be trying to recreate the Attitude Era but are failing miserably. I agree the talent is there but the angles are horrible.

Bray Wyatt character....just stupid.

Too many old guys who need to hang it up and let younger guys have a chance (See Randy Orton, Rey Mysterio, Daniel Bryan, Undertaker, Kane, Big Show, etc)

Non interesting characters....(Andrade, Ali, Bo Dallas, Ricochet, Nikki Cross, )

Retreads.....(Eric Young, Dolph Ziggler, Bobby Roode, Erick Rowan, the OC, the Hardy's, )

Bad characters with weird storylines....(Lana, Rusev and Lashley- R-Truth, Carmella, Drake Maverick and Mike and Maria Kanellis)

I could go on.....
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Old 11-07-2019, 09:11 PM   #3716
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You didn't see cody promo I'll bet it wasn't too long and it hit the nerves in the right places. Also dynamite and aew dark are hella entertaining. Nxt is also good but i watch aew live cause i want vince to start working. Give me a reason to watch raw and smackdown. Also aew women division is really good. Only because wwe keep pushing fire and desire. Lana and carmella. I want wwe 4 horsewoman vs mma 4 horsewoman. I want the o.c. with finn balor running wwe like they did in new japan. I want riddle vs. Bork laser.
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Old 11-07-2019, 09:44 PM   #3717
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And still no one knows at this point...

Also probably time to admit that this isn't a WWE problem it's a wrestling problem, there just aren't that many fans these days..




No one going to AEW shows either.
That's a big deal for AEW. While Vince has **** you money with his TV deal, AEW makes nothing off theirs so mostly empty crowd probably means that shows a loss.
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Old 11-09-2019, 10:48 PM   #3718
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