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**RealSNR** · 05-02-2020, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

I’ve compared Lock to Kirk Cousins and Derek Carr. I think he’s a mix of the two.

He can put up stats with talent around him and look better than perceived, but folds under pressure.

Every time I watch this kid he struggles when there is even a slight amount of pressure, which still makes me laugh because they had extra picks in one of the deepest OT classes in years and passed on the following players:

Josh Jones
Ezra Cleveland
Lucas Niang
Matt Peart
Ben Bartch
Saadihq Charles

They are relying on Mongo and Wilkinson, the guy we embarrassed when we faced Lock.

Bold strategy El Fraud

There might be a Miami Dolphins that gives up all hope and has a fire sale before the season starts in an effort to tank for Lawrence. Horseface could always give up a stupid haul to trade for a Laremy Tunsil.

That would be stupid. But he could do it.

Mile High Mania · 05-02-2020, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp

You do realize that in the 4 wins that Lock had...it was against teams with a 25-38-1 record?

He threw for 134 in the victory over the Chargers (4.8 YPA), 177 against the Raiders and 192 against the 3-11-1 Lions?

He did top 200 yards against KC (208) but took 40 attempts....18-40.

In 4 out of 5 games...he averaged 5.5 yards per attempt....177 yards.

The more you know....

He did beat the Texans...the same team that KC put up 51 points in 3 quarters.

You type all of that as if someone proclaimed Lock as a top 3 QB. Small body of work, but he played well.

Pitt Gorilla · 05-02-2020, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

You type all of that as if someone proclaimed Lock as a top 3 QB. Small body of work, but he played well.

How many points did he put up against KC?

BlackOp · 05-02-2020, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

You type all of that as if someone proclaimed Lock as a top 3 QB. Small body of work, but he played well.

Donks wins came against 4 teams that collectively had a 25-38-1 record...that translates to ruffly 6 wins a season.

You predicted a 9-7 record...maybe if you only play the bottom 1/3 of the NFL.

It's not only that he played bad teams...but only put up a 200 yard average. The Texans meltdown padded that average by 30 yards...

Lock reminds me of Cutler...stylistically. I watched him a lot with the Bears... Here are the stats through their first 5 games...

Culter 9 TDs 5 INT 200 YPG
Lock 7 TDs 3 INT 205 YPG

Mahomes 14 TDs 1 INT 300 YPG

7 win ceiling in 2020....Lock ranked 29th in QB index last year.

Being that Lock isn't really an accurate passer...Lamb would have been my choice over Jeudy. Better hands and a larger catch radius...precision routes dont matter if the ball is off target.

Mile High Mania · 05-02-2020, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

How many points did he put up against KC?

Not enough.

Pitt Gorilla · 05-02-2020, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Not enough.

But he played well?

Mile High Mania · 05-03-2020, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

But he played well?

Yeah, the comment was made regarding the 5 games.

mdstu · 05-03-2020, 12:34 PM

Did he play well in those five games? Really?

In honor of Knowmo's return, I decided to re-watch the condensed version of all of Lock's games from last year, last week. I wasn't impressed.

As a Mizzou fan, I already know Lock's strengths and weaknesses. He has the arm and athleticism; he doesn't have the head and the heart. He is not going to pick up a team and carry them to a win.

I'm hoping he proves me wrong, I kinda like him as a person. I also don't want to watch the AFCW become the AFCE. I want to watch Mahomes play good/competitive teams.

Atleast you didn't spend half of an entire draft on him, like the Bears did with Trubisky.

Mile High Mania · 05-03-2020, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by mdstu

Did he play well in those five games? Really?

In honor of Knowmo's return, I decided to re-watch the condensed version of all of Lock's games from last year, last week. I wasn't impressed.

As a Mizzou fan, I already know Lock's strengths and weaknesses. He has the arm and athleticism; he doesn't have the head and the heart. He is not going to pick up a team and carry them to a win.

I'm hoping he proves me wrong, I kinda like him as a person. I also don't want to watch the AFCW become the AFCE. I want to watch Mahomes play good/competitive teams.

Atleast you didn't spend half of an entire draft on him, like the Bears did with Trubisky.

Well, shit. You, BlackTop and others aren't impressed... damn. Guess there's always 2021.

**RealSNR** · 05-03-2020, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Well, shit. You, BlackTop and others aren't impressed... damn. Guess there's always 2021.

You're playing in the era of Mahomes, man. You're better off saying, "Guess there's always 2035"

Mile High Mania · 05-03-2020, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR

You're playing in the era of Mahomes, man. You're better off saying, "Guess there's always 2035"

Damn... that’s a long tine.

**ptlyon** · 05-03-2020, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Damn... that’s a long tine.

About time

BlackOp · 05-03-2020, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by mdstu

At least you didn't spend half of an entire draft on him, like the Bears did with Trubisky.

I'd imagine their fans were pretty excited when he started out 2-1....kind of like Donko fans right now.

How long do you stick with a rookie QB after you know he's not going to be good enough?

If I were a GM...first full season as a starter is a wash. After the 2nd full season..you know. That's 32 games....if they haven't shown it, they wont.

Teams spend way too much time hoping their QB will become something they arent...

Peter Gibbons · 05-03-2020, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Damn... that’s a long tine.

It may not be that long at all for Denver. There is no way Elway’s liver makes it to 2035. So, you have that going for you.

**RealSNR** · 05-03-2020, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp

I'd imagine their fans were pretty excited when he started out 2-1....kind of like Donko fans right now.

How long do you stick with a rookie QB after you know he's not going to be good enough?

If I were a GM...first full season as a starter is a wash. After the 2nd full season..you know. That's 32 games....if they haven't shown it, they wont.

Teams spend way too much time hoping their QB will become something they arent...

And while you should treat first years from rookie starters as a wash, sometimes you just know it's not going to work out after year one.

I just don't see Dwayne Haskins' dinking and dunking at Ohio State turning him into a franchise QB.

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mdstu Let's get a snack Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Cincinnati Casino cash: $-431099	Did he play well in those five games? Really? In honor of Knowmo's return, I decided to re-watch the condensed version of all of Lock's games from last year, last week. I wasn't impressed. As a Mizzou fan, I already know Lock's strengths and weaknesses. He has the arm and athleticism; he doesn't have the head and the heart. He is not going to pick up a team and carry them to a win. I'm hoping he proves me wrong, I kinda like him as a person. I also don't want to watch the AFCW become the AFCE. I want to watch Mahomes play good/competitive teams. Atleast you didn't spend half of an entire draft on him, like the Bears did with Trubisky.
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