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Old 01-22-2018, 04:34 PM   #3661
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Old 01-22-2018, 05:09 PM   #3662
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Old 01-22-2018, 06:19 PM   #3663
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You're just augmenting what I said

"The problem with Automotive Technicians is that they are always the best they have ever met."™


I think you're headed down the wrong path here dude. It's OK for you to be confident in your own skills/skin, but SAUTO knows his shit...
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Old 01-22-2018, 06:19 PM   #3664
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Old 01-22-2018, 06:59 PM   #3665
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Old 01-23-2018, 07:03 AM   #3666
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Yes, technically they can, in a classroom (cough), but they don't.....They can "vibrate" if they are moving around in their sockets but it's always something else causing the abnormal vibration or shimmy.

Shimmy is an "abnormal vibration"

Shows how much you know.
I think you're conflating what is a root cause and what is a greater concern.

Imbalanced or frictional tires and brakes can induce a bit of vibrational energy into the drivetrain without being an immediate concern. But if the ball joints are loosening, this allows that vibrational energy to form a feedback loop until it's noticeable and distracting. Further, that loosening of ball joints is a greater danger of loss of vehicle control than a stuck caliper or an imbalanced tire.

The vibrations may CAUSE the shimmy, but if the vibrations are noteable enough to track down and diagnose, it's important to figure out if the ball joints are failing.

Think of it like loose lug nuts. Much like tightened lug nuts assure that your wheel stays on your car as you turn and corner, a tire or brake can have a small imbalance that proper ball joints [as part of a properly maintained drive train] can absorb before you notice them. But if your lug nuts/ball joints are loose, the vibrations/turning can be catastrophic in short order.
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Old 01-23-2018, 08:10 AM   #3667
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Getting myself a cup of coffee....


I'll try to wrap my mind around "drive train" comment.
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Old 01-23-2018, 10:03 AM   #3668
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I'll try to wrap my mind around "drive train" comment.
Is there anything you're not an expert on?
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Old 01-23-2018, 10:26 AM   #3669
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I'll try to wrap my mind around "drive train" comment.
Coffee is not going to help you understand drive trains.
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Old 01-23-2018, 11:21 AM   #3670
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Why don't you explain how a "ball joint" is part of a "drive train" of an automobile?





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Dartgod.

Why don't you explain how a "ball joint" is part of a "drive train" of an automobile?





It would be much easier to simply point out that your reading comprehension sucks.
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Old 01-23-2018, 11:28 AM   #3672
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Coffee is not going to help you understand drive trains.
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Why don't you take take the challenge too? Explain it to me.

Just how would a "ball joint" be considered a part of the "drive train" of a car?
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that proper ball joints [as part of a properly maintained drive train] can absorb

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Imbalanced or frictional tires and brakes can induce a bit of vibrational energy into the drivetrain without being an immediate concern. But if the ball joints are loosening, this allows that vibrational energy to form a feedback loop until it's noticeable and distracting.
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Dartgod.

Why don't you explain how a "ball joint" is part of a "drive train" of an automobile?
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GloryHolZ,
Why don't you take take the challenge too? Explain it to me.

Just how would a "ball joint" be considered a part of the "drive train" of a car?
Don't be an asshole.
This ****ing place. You can say correct thing after correct thing. But if you're too precise in your language people avoid the subject by bitching about you being pedantic. And if you're too colloquial in your language, people avoid the subject by being pedantic themselves.

I called it the drivetrain because it was a succinct term for the vehicle guidance control and dampening subsystem, that most reasonable people would recognize as referring to what I was in fact referring to.

But you had to be butthurt about the slightest of contradiction.
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