Funny Stuff New Conference re-alignment thread - Page 240

**Saulbadguy** · 09-12-2011, 07:57 AM

The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.

**mikeyis4dcats.** · 10-06-2011, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by HolyHandgernade

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/footbal...ude_tcu_083011

"Unlikely? Sure. Am I the only one who sees it? Probably."

That is an opinion piece, not anything remotely showing ANY interest by the SEC.

HolyHandgernade · 10-06-2011, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats.

No, he doesn't.

Why do people want to be such pricks?

Brock · 10-06-2011, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by HolyHandgernade

Why do people want to be such pricks?

This is sports. It's SERIOUS.

HolyHandgernade · 10-06-2011, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats.

"Unlikely? Sure. Am I the only one who sees it? Probably."

That is an opinion piece, not anything remotely showing ANY interest by the SEC.

I didn't say "by the SEC", I said:

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TCU had been mentioned as a dark horse candidate for further SEC expansion

mnchiefsguy said:

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TCU was considered for the SEC?

So **** off.

HolyHandgernade · 10-06-2011, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock

This is sports. It's SERIOUS.

Oh yes, I forget. Thanks for the reminder.

**Saul Good** · 10-06-2011, 10:18 AM

I'm getting word that Tulane has an invitation to the SEC. The Big XII better scoop them up quickly.

mnchiefsguy · 10-06-2011, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

I'm getting word that Tulane has an invitation to the SEC. The Big XII better scoop them up quickly.

Tulane does have that coveted AAU membership.

mnchiefsguy · 10-06-2011, 10:20 AM

810 is reporting Mizzou abstained from voting on the TCU expansion offer.

http://www.big12sports.com/ViewArtic...CLID=205311929

talastan · 10-06-2011, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy

810 is reporting Mizzou abstained from voting on the TCU expansion offer.

http://www.big12sports.com/ViewArtic...CLID=205311929

This is promising.....

Jerm · 10-06-2011, 10:34 AM

So Keitzman's trying to stir the flames on Twitter, saying his "sources" stated that Deaton took part in the discussions and was involved in everything bar the vote. He then said would he really do that if his intentions were to move Mizzou.

Ok whatever Kevin, clueless moron.

Mr. Plow · 10-06-2011, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy

810 is reporting Mizzou abstained from voting on the TCU expansion offer.

http://www.big12sports.com/ViewArtic...CLID=205311929

Shocker.

**mikeyis4dcats.** · 10-06-2011, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Jerm

So Keitzman's trying to stir the flames on Twitter, saying his "sources" stated that Deaton took part in the discussions and was involved in everything bar the vote. He then said would he really do that if his intentions were to move Mizzou.

Ok whatever Kevin, clueless moron.

IIRC Chip Brown was the first to tweet that Mizzou participated in the discussions, but recused from voting.

ChiefsCountry · 10-06-2011, 10:50 AM

Well they got the Big 12 South taken care of now with the additon of TCU. Now onto the North they go with BYU and Louisville then who between Cincinnati and West Virginia.

eazyb81 · 10-06-2011, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Jerm

So Keitzman's trying to stir the flames on Twitter, saying his "sources" stated that Deaton took part in the discussions and was involved in everything bar the vote. He then said would he really do that if his intentions were to move Mizzou.

Ok whatever Kevin, clueless moron.

KK: "Mizzou has an offer from the Big Ten and they are going. Done Deal"

KK: "No one is talking about Mizzou to the SEC! They aren't going anywhere! The Dearmonds are making this up!"

**DaKCMan AP** · 10-06-2011, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by HolyHandgernade

Actually, since they were not yet part of the Big East, they don't have to pay any exit fee. Banner is up on Sportsline Breaking News that they have been invited and are expected to accept.

Wrong.

"What it means is that TCU could be out of the Big East before it ever officially joins. According to two college officials, it would be an easy departure for the Horned Frogs, since they would only have to pay a $5 million exit fee and aren’t bound by the 27-month waiting period penalty unless they are Big East members as of July 1."

http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/in..._tcu_befo.html

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Originally Posted by HolyHandgernade

I suspect another motivation crept into this decision. TCU had been mentioned as a dark horse candidate for further SEC expansion and I think the Texas schools were a bit nervous about two Texas schools in the SEC, so this might have been a bit of a preemptive move to head that off, especially if Mizzou does go to the SEC.

Wrong. TCU has never been under consideration for joining the SEC.

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Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy

Interesting. Just saw a tweet that Bama, LSU, Florida, and Georgia are the ones who are in the no column on Mizzou. Interesting that the football strong schools would be in the no, given that Mizzou would be such an easy win on their schedule.

I'm just speculating but Bama is probably hesitant to sign away their cross-division rivalry with Tennessee. Florida and Georgia are likely skeptical about having to travel to Mizzou as they are the two schools farthest away. Not sure about LSU.

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Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy

810 is reporting Mizzou abstained from voting on the TCU expansion offer.

http://www.big12sports.com/ViewArtic...CLID=205311929

Awesome.

09-12-2011, 07:57 AM
Saulbadguy When a nightmare becomes real Join Date: Nov 2003 Casino cash: $796966	New Conference re-alignment thread The old one has AIDS. Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month. Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com. Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said. The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said. Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned. If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday. There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12. Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative. Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division. Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox). If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form. Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options." Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas. Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas. There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits. Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC. It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools. Stay tuned.
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10-06-2011, 10:18 AM	#3591
Saul Good Quit your bullshit Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bored of winning Casino cash: $10052799	I'm getting word that Tulane has an invitation to the SEC. The Big XII better scoop them up quickly. __________________ Today is not a good day to be a pussy.
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mnchiefsguy MVP Join Date: Dec 2003 Casino cash: $2366206	810 is reporting Mizzou abstained from voting on the TCU expansion offer. http://www.big12sports.com/ViewArtic...CLID=205311929
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Jerm Mahomes > God Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Clinton, MO Casino cash: $4908996	So Keitzman's trying to stir the flames on Twitter, saying his "sources" stated that Deaton took part in the discussions and was involved in everything bar the vote. He then said would he really do that if his intentions were to move Mizzou. Ok whatever Kevin, clueless moron.
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ChiefsCountry The Insider Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Lake of the Ozarks Casino cash: $448752	Well they got the Big 12 South taken care of now with the additon of TCU. Now onto the North they go with BYU and Louisville then who between Cincinnati and West Virginia.
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