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Old 04-27-2017, 07:19 PM  
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Old 01-13-2023, 02:43 PM   #35776
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There isn't a single stat or narrative you can point to that would make Allen your MVP over Mahomes.

Mahomes had more total yards, higher completion %, higher passer rating, higher YPA, fewer INTs, fewer fumbles, more wins, #1 seed.

I mean, I suppose Allen's got the head-to-head over Mahomes but that is all I can think of. Burrow's got a stronger MVP case than Allen at this point.
Hurts got the one vote, not Allen.
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It wasn’t the missed offsides call that cost the Pats that game. It was giving up not one, but two kickoff returns for TDs.

The officiating was biased the entire day and you can’t tell me that didn’t influence the outcome of that game.


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Old 01-13-2023, 02:56 PM   #35778
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The officiating was biased the entire day and you can’t tell me that didn’t influence the outcome of that game.


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Don’t know. Perhaps they don’t give up to kickoff returns for TDs and still lose due to biased refs. We will never know if the refs were in their favor and impacted the game. What is known is that not many teams give up a kickoff return TD and even fewer give up two in the same game. Looking at that score it’s clear we would be having a different conversation had that not happened.
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It was a ****ing joke, Pats would have won that game.

Two embarrassing holds resulting in return TDs
Huge no call hold on DE on 3rd and Long
Blatant hit on defensless receiver w/o the damn ball
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It was WWE style McMahon!!
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There isn't a single stat or narrative you can point to that would make Allen your MVP over Mahomes.

Mahomes had more total yards, higher completion %, higher passer rating, higher YPA, fewer INTs, fewer fumbles, more wins, #1 seed.

I mean, I suppose Allen's got the head-to-head over Mahomes but that is all I can think of. Burrow's got a stronger MVP case than Allen at this point.
Oh, I agree.

I was just saying when they actually do the MVP vote, it wouldn’t surprise me to see a couple reeruns vote for Hurts. It also wouldn’t shock me if some NFL media personality decided to throw a sympathy vote Allen’s way because, well, you know . . . . . .
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It was a ****ing joke, Pats would have won that game.

Two embarrassing holds resulting in return TDs
Huge no call hold on DE on 3rd and Long
Blatant hit on defensless receiver w/o the damn ball
DPI in the endzone

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Exactly. I mean if you watched that game and came away with any other conclusion...well I don't know wtf to tell you.
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The officiating was biased the entire day and you can’t tell me that didn’t influence the outcome of that game.
Eh.

Can't give up 2 return TDs and win.

In the end, the Patriots had no business winning that game. Mac Jones is lousy, they have no weapons to speak of, the only shot they have to win against quality teams is to play a solid, smart game at all 3 levels.

They didn't. At all.
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Honestly can’t disagree with Nick. Not sure how one person felt Hurts deserved it over Mahomes outside of them trying to be different or disliking Mahomes.
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I remember listening to an episode of New Heights and the Kelce Brothers called the MVP award as Most Valuable Passer. I wonder if any non QB ever wins that award again and if so what would it take. I believe that had Jefferson broken Megatron’s receiving record he still would not have finished higher that 3 or 4 in the voting.
It's a QB driven league. Why wouldn't the MVP be a QB?

And if you want to win a SB, unless you find a unicorn(aka Brady), you are going to need a top 10 drafted QB and a even a top 10 QB isn't a guarantee..
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It's a QB driven league. Why wouldn't the MVP be a QB?

And if you want to win a SB, unless you find a unicorn(aka Brady), you are going to need a top 10 drafted QB and a even a top 10 QB isn't a guarantee..
The MVP on every team is the QB so why shouldn’t the league MVP be a QB?
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