Chiefs ****Our Wide Receivers Suck- Official Thread**** - Page 238

Sofa King · 09-07-2023, 09:08 PM

They can’t get open, they drop passes in their hands, their jet sweeps are slow and terrible. These guys are not good.

**BossChief** · 10-10-2023, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX

Well, especially when you consider that he was supposed to be a great route runner and quick and he's failing at the very things that he was supposed to be good at, or the very things that got into the NFL, then yeah he doesn't belong.

The hope I’m clinging to is that he is just taking longer to get a full understanding because he was a RB in hs and only played 3 years at WR in his life before being drafted. And those were at a small school.

But man…dude needs to get better at literally everything.

ThaVirus · 10-10-2023, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

The hope I’m clinging to is that he is just taking longer to get a full understanding because he was a RB in hs and only played 3 years at WR in his life before being drafted. And those were at a small school.

But man…dude needs to get better at literally everything.

He’s not gifted with the ball in his hands either so I’m not holding out hope

IowaHawkeyeChief · 10-10-2023, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

I can see why they could want Hardman back bc holy shit is this bullshit.

https://x.com/zackeisen21/status/171...YJXccxRIbYwg3A

What... He couldn't cut back inside. That still shot is bullshit. Sky may be underperforming, but not much he could do on that play but try and split the defenders.

IowaHawkeyeChief · 10-10-2023, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by In58men

We’re not very good at developing WRs

Hardman
Skyy
Juju
MVS
Toney
Benjamin
Gordon
Watson (best WR aside from Hill, average)
Watkins (playoff stud, I guess)

We had the #1 offense last year... We are #6 this year. We are good at developing yards and points...

MahomesMagic · 10-10-2023, 08:08 PM

NFL Team Points per Play
1 Miami 0.586 0.661 0.574 0.808 0.435 0.397
2 San Francisco 0.525 0.540 0.627 0.540 0.500 0.424
3 Buffalo 0.502 0.600 0.370 0.662 0.390 0.426
4 Seattle 0.472 0.519 0.471 0.427 0.517 0.388
5 Detroit 0.447 0.487 0.700 0.495 0.385 0.415
6 Denver 0.426 0.439 0.368 0.395 0.477 0.266
7 LA Chargers 0.410 0.396 0.381 0.417 0.403 0.344
8 Dallas 0.405 0.332 0.204 0.447 0.369 0.410
9 Philadelphia 0.393 0.368 0.295 0.479 0.336 0.435
10 Green Bay 0.392 0.282 0.228 0.306 0.457 0.352
11 Kansas City 0.387 0.444 0.422 0.445 0.345 0.456
12 Chicago 0.376 0.422 0.625 0.343 0.404 0.328
13 Arizona 0.366 0.362 0.351 0.447 0.256 0.297
14 Indianapolis 0.366 0.335 0.377 0.356 0.379 0.262

https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/points-per-play

We were #1 overall in both years we won the Super Bowl.

DJ's left nut · 10-10-2023, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Basileus777

You all realize that Hardman would require cutting one of the WRs and it'd probably be Ross.

No it wouldn't and no it wouldn't.

James is already down and didn't contribute anyway.

DRM08 · 10-10-2023, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

NFL Team Points per Play
1 Miami 0.586 0.661 0.574 0.808 0.435 0.397
2 San Francisco 0.525 0.540 0.627 0.540 0.500 0.424
3 Buffalo 0.502 0.600 0.370 0.662 0.390 0.426
4 Seattle 0.472 0.519 0.471 0.427 0.517 0.388
5 Detroit 0.447 0.487 0.700 0.495 0.385 0.415
6 Denver 0.426 0.439 0.368 0.395 0.477 0.266
7 LA Chargers 0.410 0.396 0.381 0.417 0.403 0.344
8 Dallas 0.405 0.332 0.204 0.447 0.369 0.410
9 Philadelphia 0.393 0.368 0.295 0.479 0.336 0.435
10 Green Bay 0.392 0.282 0.228 0.306 0.457 0.352
11 Kansas City 0.387 0.444 0.422 0.445 0.345 0.456
12 Chicago 0.376 0.422 0.625 0.343 0.404 0.328
13 Arizona 0.366 0.362 0.351 0.447 0.256 0.297
14 Indianapolis 0.366 0.335 0.377 0.356 0.379 0.262

https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/points-per-play

We were #1 overall in both years we won the Super Bowl.

What does it look like when you add 14 points combined for Jacksonville & Jets games? Long drives, ton of plays, no points, deliberately ended on the opponent’s goal line. I don’t remember this scenario happening in the 2019 or 2022 seasons, but it has already happened twice this year. Pretty big impact on the season stats considering they have only played 5 games total.

MahomesMagic · 10-10-2023, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08

What does it look like when you add 14 points combined for Jacksonville & Jets games? Long drives, ton of plays, no points, deliberately ended on the opponent’s goal line. I don’t remember this scenario happening in the 2019 or 2022 seasons, but it has already happened twice this year. Pretty big impact on the season stats considering they have only played 5 games total.

You would have to assume we never kneeled on a ball before this year, it's Andy Reid. We call the dogs off and always have.

MVChiefFan · 10-10-2023, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by In58men

We’re not very good at developing WRs

Hardman
Skyy
Juju
MVS
Toney
Benjamin
Gordon
Watson (best WR aside from Hill, average)
Watkins (playoff stud, I guess)

Why would you use the word “developing” when there’s literally only two WR on that list that we drafted? The others were what they were years before they got here.

In58men · 10-10-2023, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato

Didn't we develop Hill, though?

I’m pretty sure given his character issues he would have been drafted a lot higher than that. I mean, still that’s only 1 WR lol. Not ideal, especially since we’ve trade up and passed on better WRs in previous drafts.

In58men · 10-10-2023, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MVChiefFan

Why would you use the word “developing” when there’s literally only two WR on that list that we drafted? The others were what they were years before they got here.

Okay, how about this.

Chiefs struggle at finding talent at the WR position.

In58men · 10-10-2023, 08:56 PM

It’s okay to say we’re struggling to find above average WRs, we’re still winning games so it’s not that big of a concern as of now.

Just saying, sooner or later we gotta get it right.

staylor26 · 10-10-2023, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by In58men

It’s okay to say we’re struggling to find above average WRs, we’re still winning games so it’s not that big of a concern as of now.

Just saying, sooner or later we gotta get it right.

They very likely did with Rice.

Many of you just don't have the foresight to see it.

In58men · 10-10-2023, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

They very likely did with Rice.

Many of you just don't have the foresight to see it.

I completely agree, I feel like it’s possible he can be our true #1.

The next four games the defenses the Chiefs will face are ranked in PPG

32nd
24th
32nd
26th

Could be a good time to get him rollin’

MahomesMagic · 10-10-2023, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by In58men

I’m pretty sure given his character issues he would have been drafted a lot higher than that. I mean, still that’s only 1 WR lol. Not ideal, especially since we’ve trade up and passed on better WRs in previous drafts.

I don't really believe much in development at WR as in a player that has physical gifts learns to play the position in the NFL.

The only two cases I can think of are Steve Smith and Tyreek Hill as players that got significantly better in the NFL.

Usually if you draft a guy that has no craft, can't run routes-that player still sucks at it in the NFL.

When we drafted Hardman we passed on guys like McLaurin and Diontae Johnson.

Yes there is a a learning curve as to learning playbook, offense, adapting to NFL speed.

But McLaurin was running those crisp, precise routes at Ohio State while Hardman wasn't.

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