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According to next gen stats, last year’s Chiefs team was the 19th best KC team of all time. Yet we won SB. This year’s team was the 28th best team. So there have been 27 KC Chiefs team since 1960 that were statistically better overall. Yet we won the SB. Why? We have the best QB in the NFL and it isn’t close.
You can say you’d rather have Burrow. Hell, you might even convince yourself that you believe it. But 31 GMs and 31 coaches in the NFL would take Patrick Mahomes over what they have now. It’s not even close. Another interesting statistic: in the last 50 years, 26 QBs have lost their first trip to the SB, including Burrow. Guess how many went on to ever win the SB? 1. John Elway. No other QB has gone on to win the SB after losing their first time. You also have only 2 more years under the 5 year rule. Josh Allen is already outside the 5 year rule window. Be interesting to see whether Burrow can validate that rule or prove the exception. He first has to stay healthy enough though. And so far he has not done a great job of staying healthy. Last edited by frozenchief; 02-22-2024 at 01:54 AM.. Reason: Eliminate Redundancy |
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Mahomes' teams expect to win, Burrow's breed arrogance
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There's a FYP in there but i'm gonna refrain this time.
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"Joey Brrrrrrridesmaid will never win a SB. Mother Faulker, your team will NEVER WIN A SUPER BOWL!!" "History won't remember Joe Burrow. At all. Less than it will Matthew Stafford; similar to how it remembers Carson Palmer. Maybe he stays healthy and has a Matt Ryan career."--DJ'sLeftNut |
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Also, this is the last year under the 5 year rule.
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![]() but It's possible to have previous teams be better by combined offense and defensive rankings, or maybe even by metrics like efficiency and epa, without having the best QB and still be considered a "better team".
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They have the Twenty Ten Cassel Chiefs over this years team for ****s sake
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Would an idiot do that?
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I think a big part of it is how they treat the regular season these days.... they were obviously a far better team this season once they stopped rotating 8 receivers and CEH started getting fewer touches (among other things), and even after that they rarely blow out teams and routinely shut it down. Similar to all the chest thumping that rival fans do around here every postseason for being point differential champs and so forth... so many of those stats don't mean shit. And many of those Chiefs teams of the past were in the same shoes, wanting to prove themselves, fighting for their playoff lives, etc... which is apples and oranges compared to these Andy Reid and Mahomes teams.
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A lot of it comes down to the analytics generation. Take a previous team, compute their epa, compare them to today's team. If the raw numbers are better, the team was "better". Ultimate results don't really factor in a lot of the time.
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