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Since no one else seems to notice this, or realize this is part of the issue, Mahomes takes a predominantly 5 step (sometimes even 7 or 9) drop out of the shotgun. Burrow takes a 3 step drop, with very few (mostly go routes down the sideline) 5 step drops from the shotgun and he's mostly static there, while Mahomes also drifts on his drops from time to time. A 3 step drop keeps Burrow closer to the line, making it harder to escape pressure (obviously) and his line has been average at best on a good day. That's just the design of each offense and it's why i don't bother with tQBR with Burrow.
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Pay me. Gimme that bag like Sneed wants and i'm out!
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"Joey Brrrrrrridesmaid will never win a SB. Mother Faulker, your team will NEVER WIN A SUPER BOWL!!" "History won't remember Joe Burrow. At all. Less than it will Matthew Stafford; similar to how it remembers Carson Palmer. Maybe he stays healthy and has a Matt Ryan career."--DJ'sLeftNut |
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Kidding. Mahomes is clearly better than Burrow at that and does it a lot more.
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Mahomes is sneaky good as a runner. It seems like when he takes off, it’s almost always a first down conversion and usually in a big moment on 3rd or 4th down. He had two big time runs on 3rd and 4th down in the Miami playoff game. Two big time runs on 3rd and 4th down in Overtime of the Super Bowl against the Niners. In the 2023 regular season, they graded Mahomes ahead of Lamar & Justin Fields in the rushing portion of the QBR metric. |
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At that? He's better than Glass Joe at everything. 3 rings to zero. 2 League MVPs to zero. 3 SB MVP's to zero. Less talent and wins more.
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I get why Bengals fans want to try propping up Burrow. After all they are stuck with their own version of playoffs Alex Smith. But they might have better luck arguing with Bills or Ravens fans about things he does better if they actually want any chance of being right.
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Wait...too soon?
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Burrow - 2021 (4 games)- 97/142 68.3% 1,105 yards 7.8 ypa 5 TD's 2 INT's QB Rating 97.3 15 runs 70 yards 6 1st downs. Look pretty similar overall, except Pat's legs were a bit more valuable to his team. And he ended his season with a Super Bowl win directing a GWD in OT to win it, while Joe came up short on his GWD attempt. So . . . . . . . And this was the year Pat was 'carried by his defense'. ![]() |
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I don't know what the numbers mean in the rushing portion of QBR metric, but clearly anyone above 10 points in this rushing metric seems to be a pretty good running QB. Anyone who is close to 0 points or even negative points (Jimmy G, Jared Goff, Tom Brady) is a statue in the pocket. 2022 QBR rushing metric: 1. Justin Fields 46.5 2. Josh Allen 43.9 3. Jalen Hurts 38.7 4. Daniel Jones 26.8 5. Patrick Mahomes 24.9 6. Lamar Jackson 22.2 7. Kyler Murray 19.2 8. Joe Burrow 13.3 29. Jimmy G -2.0 30. Tom Brady -3.4 31. Jared Goff -3.9 Your boy Joe looks pretty damn good in this 2022 list. He looked pretty good in the 2021 list as well at 8th in rushing efficiency. So he's #8 in both years, despite people not thinking of him as a runner. Pretty damn good! Now in 2023 it looks like the defenses clamped down on rushing QB's to an extent. Mahomes was pretty similar in both years above 20 points, but the guys at the top end dropped off a lot from 2022. Last year we had 3 guys above 38 points in this metric, whereas in 2023 only one guy was even above 25 points. 2023 QBR rushing metric: 1. Josh Allen 31.2 2. Josh Dobbs 22.0 3. Patrick Mahomes 21.6 4. Lamar Jackson 19.8 5. Justin Fields 19.6 6. Bryce Young 18.3 7. Jalen Hurts 16.4 8. Sam Howell 14.6 28. Jared Goff -2.0 29. Derek Carr -5.1 30. Tua Tago -7.0 Jalen Hurts dropped from 38.7 to 16.4. That's something to watch moving forward with him and the Philly offense. Tua is dead last with a -7.0 grade as a runner. Kind of shocking, lol |
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Now I'm curious to see what happens with some of the other AFC teams. CJ Stroud is only 22 years old and has shown big time potential. Houston will load that roster around him as much as possible while he's still on the cheap rookie contract for at least the next 4 years. Jim Harbaugh is bound to make the Chargers a better team than they were with Brandon Staley. Steelers & Browns are dangerous if they can figure out the QB position. Obviously the Ravens have a good coach, very good QB, and very good roster in general. I'm not sure if Miami can ever do anything in the Playoffs unless they have the #1 seed to guarantee warm weather games. |
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A lot of smack talk for a team that was last place in their division with Burrow. They won’t be winning their division next year, and will ultimately fail like every team in the shit sucking state of ohio always does.
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