Funny Stuff New Conference re-alignment thread - Page 235

**Saulbadguy** · 09-12-2011, 07:57 AM

The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.

eazyb81 · 10-06-2011, 06:34 AM

USA Today article on B12 quotes head of OU Board of Regents "But...we have to look at our options. Texas has to know we're looking at our options. However limited they might be, they're not as limited as people think. Oklahoma's a pretty good brand".

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KK is right, Big 12 is so much more secure and stable than SEC.

eazyb81 · 10-06-2011, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies

Are there people who really think that under any circumstance the Big 12 is a better conference to be in than the SEC? Seriously?

No, no one with a functional brain thinks that.

eazyb81 · 10-06-2011, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

I agree tk. I certainly wouldn't be business partners with Texas. They have tried to screw their business partners multiple times. I don't get why anyone would trust them.

Which is really what the MU going to the SEC is all about...Trust. MU doesn't trust Texas and they feel like the first chance Texas gets they will screw everyone over and blow everything up. Who would want to be in business with somebody like that?

This is what it all boils down to. The SEC provides significantly more stability and trust, with the leadership to maintain it.

Everyone needs to stop lying to themselves and just come to grips with this.

**DaKCMan AP** · 10-06-2011, 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eazyb81

USA Today article on B12 quotes head of OU Board of Regents "But...we have to look at our options. Texas has to know we're looking at our options. However limited they might be, they're not as limited as people think. Oklahoma's a pretty good brand".

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KK is right, Big 12 is so much more secure and stable than SEC.

The SEC would take OU in a second. They don't really want OSU, though.

**Saulbadguy** · 10-06-2011, 07:21 AM

It's over. MU might join the Big 10 in a few years, but they are sticking with the Big XII for now.

Reerun_KC · 10-06-2011, 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

It's over. MU might join the Big 10 in a few years, but they are sticking with the Big XII for now.

LINK?

Mr. Plow · 10-06-2011, 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bewbies

Are there people who really think that under any circumstance the Big 12 is a better conference to be in than the SEC? Seriously?

Not one single person in this thread has said this....or even hinted at it. Quit making shit up.

Reerun_KC · 10-06-2011, 07:37 AM

MU staying or going?

**Saulbadguy** · 10-06-2011, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ReeTodd_KC

LINK?

Die in an AIDS hurricane.

eazyb81 · 10-06-2011, 08:00 AM

Well this would be rich.

OKStateTweets Pistol Pete
@Gswaim Hearing Texas @ChipBrownOB was "administrator" quoted yesterday in story about preferring B10 over SEC to sabotage Missouri.

GSwaim BigTime TV/Radio
@OKStateTweets I've already had four media members and a Big 12 coach tell me the same thing. If found to be true, ouch!!
17 minutes ago

**Saulbadguy** · 10-06-2011, 08:02 AM

Greg Swaim = butthurt.

This OKStateTweets guy. **** him.

Mr. Plow · 10-06-2011, 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eazyb81

Well this would be rich.

OKStateTweets Pistol Pete
@Gswaim Hearing Texas @ChipBrownOB was "administrator" quoted yesterday in story about preferring B10 over SEC to sabotage Missouri.

GSwaim BigTime TV/Radio
@OKStateTweets I've already had four media members and a Big 12 coach tell me the same thing. If found to be true, ouch!!
17 minutes ago

That would be bullshit, but I think everyone knew MU preferred B10 over SEC.

mnchiefsguy · 10-06-2011, 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

That would be bullshit, but I think everyone knew MU preferred B10 over SEC.

Last year Mizzou preferred Big 10. But after getting screwed by them and left at the alter, maybe not so much this year. I think the quote in question really refers to last year's sentiments and not the current ones.

I could see Chip Brown saying that. I can see Texas putting him up to it, despite Wickedson's claims about how wonderful and honest a business partner Texas is.

Mr. Plow · 10-06-2011, 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy

Last year Mizzou preferred Big 10. But after getting screwed by them and left at the alter, maybe not so much this year. I think the quote in question really refers to last year's sentiments and not the current ones.

If both the B10 & the SEC offered MU, which do you think they would take? Today, not last year.

eazyb81 · 10-06-2011, 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

That would be bullshit, but I think everyone knew MU preferred B10 over SEC.

I don't think everyone knows anything frankly.

Big Ten was expanding last year, SEC wasn't.

Big Ten will offer junior membership, SEC will offer full membership from day one.

09-12-2011, 07:57 AM
Saulbadguy When a nightmare becomes real Join Date: Nov 2003 Casino cash: $1836966	New Conference re-alignment thread The old one has AIDS. Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month. Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com. Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said. The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said. Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned. If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday. There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12. Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative. Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division. Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox). If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form. Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options." Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas. Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas. There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits. Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC. It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools. Stay tuned.
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10-06-2011, 06:34 AM	#3511
eazyb81 The Illuminati Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: the road less traveled Casino cash: $10004900	USA Today article on B12 quotes head of OU Board of Regents "But...we have to look at our options. Texas has to know we're looking at our options. However limited they might be, they're not as limited as people think. Oklahoma's a pretty good brand". ------ KK is right, Big 12 is so much more secure and stable than SEC.
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10-06-2011, 07:21 AM	#3515
Saulbadguy When a nightmare becomes real Join Date: Nov 2003 Casino cash: $1836966	It's over. MU might join the Big 10 in a few years, but they are sticking with the Big XII for now. __________________ http://www.goemaw.com
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10-06-2011, 07:37 AM	#3518
Reerun_KC Rock Chalk Jayhawks! KU!!! Join Date: Aug 2005 Casino cash: $8031160	MU staying or going?
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10-06-2011, 08:00 AM	#3520
eazyb81 The Illuminati Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: the road less traveled Casino cash: $10004900	Well this would be rich. OKStateTweets Pistol Pete @Gswaim Hearing Texas @ChipBrownOB was "administrator" quoted yesterday in story about preferring B10 over SEC to sabotage Missouri. GSwaim BigTime TV/Radio @OKStateTweets I've already had four media members and a Big 12 coach tell me the same thing. If found to be true, ouch!! 17 minutes ago
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10-06-2011, 08:02 AM	#3521
Saulbadguy When a nightmare becomes real Join Date: Nov 2003 Casino cash: $1836966	Greg Swaim = butthurt. This OKStateTweets guy. **** him. __________________ http://www.goemaw.com
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