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Old 04-27-2017, 07:19 PM  
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Old 11-23-2022, 11:42 AM   #34936
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I don't really want Pat to win regular season MVP. I'd rather they win the Super Bowl.
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Old 11-23-2022, 11:45 AM   #34938
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I don't really want Pat to win regular season MVP. I'd rather they win the Super Bowl.
Why not both?
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Why not both?
It doesn't usually happen. In fact, IIRC no modern MVP has ever won the Super Bowl.
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It doesn't usually happen. In fact, IIRC no modern MVP has ever won the Super Bowl.
True.

That's why it would be cool.
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Found it.

The last player to win MVP and go on to win the SB was Kurt Warner in 1999.
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True.

That's why it would be cool.
It would be cool but I don't really want to watch them lose.
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It would be cool but I don't really want to watch them lose.
They really aren't dependent on each other.

I'm guessing that the reason it doesn't often happen is that if your QB is putting up those numbers your defense can't be too dominant.

But we weren't going to win with D in the playoffs anyway.
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It doesn't usually happen. In fact, IIRC no modern MVP has ever won the Super Bowl.
I get what you mean, but Mahomes is breaking every mold and is redefining the position. If anyone could win both it is him. Plus I don’t think him winning MVP will make any difference in the playoffs. Just like the old “Madden curse” or never changing socks on game day.
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If not Mahomes, i'm taking Allen.

Herbert hasn't proven out to be clutch. He's kinda been the opposite of that. Allen has the clutch gene.

Not really. 2-9 in one score games with that defense is really bad. His worst tendencies reveal themselves in tight situations and all of his stats are significantly worst when playing from behind.
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Not really. 2-9 in one score games with that defense is really bad. His worst tendencies reveal themselves in tight situations.
Yes but under Andy he would thrive more than any other QB not named Mahomes.
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I get what you mean, but Mahomes is breaking every mold and is redefining the position. If anyone could win both it is him. Plus I don’t think him winning MVP will make any difference in the playoffs. Just like the old “Madden curse” or never changing socks on game day.
I'm a big believer in historical trends. In general, I never like to try and buck them.

That being said, you're right about Mahomes. He's the kind of player that can break the trend. He did, after all, survive being put on the cover of Madden.
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It doesn't usually happen. In fact, IIRC no modern MVP has ever won the Super Bowl.
Last time it happened was Kurt Warner with the 1999 Rams. They had a great defense, top 4 in points allowed per game. He wasn’t having to play lights out to barely win games like we saw with Mahomes on Sunday. A performance like that from your QB should lead to a comfortable win. But the defense gave up 27 points. Chiefs defense is currently 21st in the league in points allowed per game.
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That being said, you're right about Mahomes. He's the kind of player that can break the trend. He did, after all, survive being put on the cover of Madden twice.
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