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**Saulbadguy** · 09-12-2011, 07:57 AM

The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.

Bambi · 10-05-2011, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

If Texas had what they wanted, they would be playing in the Pac 12 right now and most of the Big XII would be out on life rafts trying to find a boat to cling onto.

I don't even root for any of these Big XII teams... but to me it looks like you all had a hot girlfriend, she tried to leave you... the other guys wouldn't put up with her excrement, and she came running back to where she started acting like she's changed. I think we all know how that story usually ends.

What do you think all the negotiating going on this week is about then?

A new sharing deal was just announced yesterday. It's not like all these schools are just sitting around looking out the window at the clouds all day.

Al Bundy · 10-05-2011, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson

You don't think KU-UT is a basketball rivalry?

KU and Texas have met four times in the Big 12 title game.

Texas has challenged KU for the regular season title many times tying each other twice (2006 and 2008).

yea, its a rivalry...

So.. Texas is your rival in Football?

Bambi · 10-05-2011, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy

No, KU is saying, "have fun" and then whining like a little bitch. You guys are shackled to Texas, and are bitter beyond belief that Mizzou is not willing to be happily shackled there with you.

Just so not correct I can't begin to explain.

But we each have our opinions and that's fine.

**Saulbadguy** · 10-05-2011, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by UCF Knight

So.. Texas is your rival in Football?

No. K-State is.

Bambi · 10-05-2011, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by UCF Knight

So.. Texas is your rival in Football?

no, MU is our rival in football

**dirk digler** · 10-05-2011, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson

I don't think Texas runs the league.

The teams involved run the league.

So in that case I don't see what you mean by "Texas doing right for the Big 12"..

Everyone signed on for unregulated third tier rights. Kansas was happy to do so knowing they would make a ton of $$ in doing so, and they have.

Texas has done nothing to Kansas to harm the institution.

And I still trying to figure out what they've done to Missouri.

It is simple really. Texas is your business partner, do you trust them enough to be in business with them and that they won't steal your money and destroy your business?

Brock · 10-05-2011, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson

You don't think KU-UT is a basketball rivalry?

KU and Texas have met four times in the Big 12 title game.

Texas has challenged KU for the regular season title many times tying each other twice (2006 and 2008).

yea, its a rivalry...

No, it really isn't.

|Zach| · 10-05-2011, 09:39 PM

I am seeing the beginning phases of different Kansas fans having an intervention for Wickedson.

mnchiefsguy · 10-05-2011, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach|

I am seeing the beginning phases of different Kansas fans having an intervention for Wickedson.

There is no cure for Wickedson. He is in his own world.

Crush · 10-05-2011, 09:40 PM

DanBeebe Fake Dan Beebe
Maybe I'm just cynical 'ol Beebs, but I assume that KOMU, the Mizzou-owned TV station, shows no high school highlights, right?

Bambi · 10-05-2011, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

It is simple really. Texas is your business partner, do you trust them enough to be in business with them and that they won't steal your money and destroy your business?

Well they've been business partners for about what? 16 years now?

And Kansas has an endowment of over a billion dollars?

So yea, I guess I would trust them to continue making my school money which helps educate students, build facilities, and invest in technology.

Texas has been a pretty good business partner.

tk13 · 10-05-2011, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson

What do you think all the negotiating going on this week is about then?

A new sharing deal was just announced yesterday. It's not like all these schools are just sitting around looking out the window at the clouds all day.

The only reason Texas came crawling back is because no one else wanted to put up with them. Which is saying something considering how much money they are worth.

The real question though is not about 5 or 6 year deals... this kind of stuff, you have to think 15-20 years into the future. I am definitely not saying the Big XII is going to dissolve in five years... but long term, the Big XII and Big East are definitely on shakier ground than everyone else. There's been so much backstabbing and turmoil, it just looks ugly. But things can change in 5 years.

**dirk digler** · 10-05-2011, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson

Well they've been business partners for about what? 16 years now?

And Kansas has an endowment of over a billion dollars?

So yea, I guess I would trust them to continue making my school money which helps educate students, build facilities, and invest in technology.

Texas has been a pretty good business partner.

Fair enough. Thanks for being honest

**DeezNutz** · 10-05-2011, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson

I don't think Texas runs the league.

Given the way this sentence ended, the bold would have sufficed.

mnchiefsguy · 10-05-2011, 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wickedson

Well they've been business partners for about what? 16 years now?

And Kansas has an endowment of over a billion dollars?

So yea, I guess I would trust them to continue making my school money which helps educate students, build facilities, and invest in technology.

Texas has been a pretty good business partner.

You do realize you are the only one, even among KU fans, that thinks Texas is a good partner, right?

09-12-2011, 07:57 AM
Saulbadguy When a nightmare becomes real Join Date: Nov 2003 Casino cash: $1846966	New Conference re-alignment thread The old one has AIDS. Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month. Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com. Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said. The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said. Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned. If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday. There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12. Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative. Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division. Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox). If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form. Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options." Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas. Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas. There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits. Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC. It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools. Stay tuned.
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