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Pro Bowl LT DJ Humphries Medically Cleared [signed by Chiefs]

Does Veach give him a call?

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Old Today, 10:52 AM   #331
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Would be interesting if this guy can be the solution for a couple years.

Wanya can move to Trey Smith’s guard spot when some team pays him way too much.

Kingsley can develop as a swing tackle.
Read Matt Derrick’s sourced article just now, sounds like they’re hoping at a minimum that Humphries can push Morris’ but they probably expect that the veteran is gonna play at some point.

And that’s how I look at this move and what makes it great. Now, Morris HAS to play well or there is a viable option — upgrade dare I say — waiting to jump in.

Before, there was no threat, and an injury to Morris would have been devastating.

The whole situation should bring out the best of both these guys. May the best man win.
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Read Matt Derrick’s sourced article just now, sounds like they’re hoping at a minimum that Humphries can push Morris’ but they probably expect that the veteran is gonna play at some point.

And that’s how I look at this move and what makes it great. Now, Morris HAS to play well or there is a viable option — upgrade dare I say — waiting to jump in.

Before, there was no threat, and an injury to Morris would have been devastating.

The whole situation should bring out the best of both these guys. May the best man win.
I imagine at the very minimum. It will take time to for him to get in FB shape, but I would imagine they are banking on him stabilizing LT for a few years.
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I would swap Kingsley and Morris.

Move Kingsley into Trey spot and Morris is the swing tackle.

For as athletic as Kingsley is he really struggles moving backwards (kick step, pass pro). But he excels moving forward and laterally. Which screams guard.
It'd be a big letdown to his career goals I'm sure, but far superior to the practice squad.
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Feel like we're already past the IF Morris plays bad point
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If Wanya went down against the Bills we had Ethan Driscoll backing him up, now we have a solid veteran there than can back up both spots - solid move. Too bad Kingsley is unplayable at this point- maybe he’ll come down with an “injury” and they will stash him on IR the rest of the year.
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Yeah reading the tea leaves it looks like Veach has a fungible plan.
  • Pay Humphries next season if the knee isn't an ongoing issue.
  • Let Smith walk
  • Move Wayna to RG
  • Maybe move Kingsley to RT after another year of seasoning and growth
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Wanya Morris is like Andrew Wylie. They’re both RG’s who were forced to play tackle. That’s their best fit.

Wanya is a really good run blocker and he’s a capable pass blocker who struggles blocking the edge at times.

Honestly I’m thinking G might be a better spot for Kingsley too for the same reasons.
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Yeah reading the tea leaves it looks like Veach has a fungible plan.
  • Pay Humphries next season if the knee isn't an ongoing issue.
  • Let Smith walk
  • Move Wayna to RG
  • Maybe move Kingsley to RT after another year of seasoning and growth
I like this plan, but if you’re paying Humphries it means you’re probably moving on from Thuney as well. I don’t know a team in the league that has four $80+ million contracts on a single o-line, and that’s what you’d be looking at. Most likely Humphries is taking the $16 million in space you save by cutting Joe, I don’t see how you fit him otherwise, but that is fine by me. Thuney is starting to slip a lot.

Then you have two veteran tackles with Creed in the middle, so you can get by at guard again like they did in the Fisher/Schwartz days. I think you can pull off Nourzad and Morris as your guards in that scenario.
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I mean if they didn’t make the team and are out of the NFL…

Not a knock on you, but I think people tend to grade every pick as a pure success or failure based on how good they are. But, IMO, if you’re trying to grade realistically, you have to grade based on where a player was selected, too.

If a guy is a day 3 pick and is a multiple-year starter who is average or better, that’s an A pick (4th round and on). If they’re a star, it’s an A-plus pick. If they contribute for a few years, even as a special teams player, it’s a B pick.

Picks outside the top 20 of the 1st round who are average starters are B picks. A 2nd or 3rd who is a starter and is even average over the course of their rookie deal, it’s a B+. If they’re a solid contributor you’re in B- to B territory.
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I would swap Kingsley and Morris.

Move Kingsley into Trey spot and Morris is the swing tackle.

For as athletic as Kingsley is he really struggles moving backwards (kick step, pass pro). But he excels moving forward and laterally. Which screams guard.
Movement isn't his problem. He's getting where he needs to be.

He just doesn't know what to do once he's there.
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21 & 22' were arguably some of the best drafts in franchise history with some other really good sprinkled picks in there.

Nobody is going to go crazy over this stuff but that Suggs signing was really damn good, Dunlap was another damn good signing, and if we win our 3rd straight title alot of its going to be because of the moves he made DURING the year (JuJu, Nuk, Humphries, etc.)
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I like this plan, but if you’re paying Humphries it means you’re probably moving on from Thuney as well. I don’t know a team in the league that has four $80+ million contracts on a single o-line, and that’s what you’d be looking at. Most likely Humphries is taking the $16 million in space you save by cutting Joe, I don’t see how you fit him otherwise, but that is fine by me. Thuney is starting to slip a lot.

Then you have two veteran tackles with Creed in the middle, so you can get by at guard again like they did in the Fisher/Schwartz days. I think you can pull off Nourzad and Morris as your guards in that scenario.

I don’t know that’s true. They’ve been trying to pay Trey Smith. And the savings on Thuney ($16M) are nice but still leave you with a spot to fill.

If anything, I think they would structure that so the 25 hit is smaller and then shift investment to Humphries the next year, when Thuney is gone.

Keep Thuney for the last year of his deal, and you can now break in a drafted RG option like Morris or Suamataia or Nourzad in 25, and then be looking to replace one of Rt or LG in 26 when Taylor’s deal is done (with the idea you find an internal replacement who can handle one of those, whether it is Morris bumping out to RT, Suamataia taking RT or LG, or Nourzad taking a G spot.

Humphries would presumably not be the top LT on the free agent market, either.
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IDK guys, I think Humphries could become the LT next year, but I’m not sure I would bet on it just yet.

Even in his prime, he wasn’t Eric Fisher.

Basically we’d need him to bounce back really well from the ACL AND it be a really nice scheme fit to turn into a longer term solution.

I remember doing a scouting report on DJ back in 2019, based on 2018 film, and he was a better run blocker than pass blocker at that time.

Unless they still believe Kingsley can get there in 2025-2026, I hope they swing bigger at LT.
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