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Old 04-28-2023, 09:34 PM   #331
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Crazy how involved mahomes is in the draft process. I love the leadership style of Veach how it gets everyone involved, and seems to take ego out of the equation.

And if this is mahomes guy, which he is, why the **** would anyone be upset taking him over Hyatt.
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Old 04-28-2023, 09:34 PM   #332
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It's more than measurements, it's playing style.

When you watch some Rice tape, he does Hopkins things. The high-pointing the ball. The fighting through contact for the catch. The stuff Hopkins did in Houston that made people think Deshaun Watson was good. You see Rice do those things.

The run after catch stuff. He's an extremely similar skillset.

No, I'm not saying he's going to be as successful in the NFL as Hopkins, but I can tell you he's a very similar TYPE of receiver with a lot of the same ATTRIBUTES. He's of that style. Not a Hill, not a Waddle, not a DK Metcalf. He's like a Hopkins-type receiver.

Now, he's going to have to clean up his routes, like almost every draftee, and he sometimes has the dropsies on easy catches, which tells me he's trying to run before securing the ball. But these aren't unfixable flaws. The raw material is there.

Without them, he's a top ten pick.

I'll take my chances with Reid, Nagy, and Mahomes to get his best football out of him.
I've always respected your "football eyes" and it's obvious you have played "the game". You are always accurate and consistent and this particular assessment of Rice's talent mirroring Hopkins IS SPOT ON !!! He is an "acrobatic baller" and the fact he thrives in contested space still making the catch IS HUGE especially in the NFL. Very rarely do WRs in the NFL not have to deal with contested space especially in the RED ZONE. This kid will be HUGE in the red zone, just watch.
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Old 04-28-2023, 09:36 PM   #333
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There's like 6-8 hardcore draft nerds on the board, right?

And to a person each of them love this pick and most were on the player WELL before some of the media sorts were.

I'll take the wisdom of that particular crowd over...well, the other guys in this thread....100 times out of 100.

I’m convinced those 6-8 hardcore draft nerds have better takes on the draft and draft prospects than a good portion of the “professional” guys.

For me, the things that stand out about Rice are:
Explosive leaping ability (vertical and broad)
Elite 10- and 20-yard splits
Above average agility drill times

That’s the profile of a receiver who does the things that they need to do to work in Reid’s system.

I see some Jeremy Maclin/Stafon Diggs components to his game as a route runner/receiver, but with a bigger catch radius and plucker hands.

I still was excited about Tillman and would have pulled the trigger there, but getting one of Mingo/Tillman/Rice is a plus.

My main regret re: Mingo is that we won’t get to make Tombstone memes for his whole career.
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Old 04-28-2023, 09:37 PM   #334
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In the presser just now, Borgonzi just (essentially) confirmed that Rice was working out with Patrick but they didn't want anyone to know...
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Man, you know, shit happens, who knows?

But the raw material is there, Mahomes liked him after working with him, we have the best offensive coaching staff in football. He's going to have every advantage.

If he WANTS to be great, he's certainly in the best position to be.
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Old 04-28-2023, 09:46 PM   #336
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Dunno if it has been mentioned or not, but his tape is not even his final form lol. He played most of his games nursing a broken toe and still found a way to lead the country in receiving yards.

Now try to imagine what he'd have done fully healthy.
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I’m convinced those 6-8 hardcore draft nerds have better takes on the draft and draft prospects than a good portion of the “professional” guys.

For me, the things that stand out about Rice are:
Explosive leaping ability (vertical and broad)
Elite 10- and 20-yard splits
Above average agility drill times

That’s the profile of a receiver who does the things that they need to do to work in Reid’s system.

I see some Jeremy Maclin/Stafon Diggs components to his game as a route runner/receiver, but with a bigger catch radius and plucker hands.

I still was excited about Tillman and would have pulled the trigger there, but getting one of Mingo/Tillman/Rice is a plus.

My main regret re: Mingo is that we won’t get to make Tombstone memes for his whole career.
Being a draft guy is just about time and the ability to judge guys...
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Old 04-28-2023, 09:51 PM   #338
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^this

Willing to bet Hyatt has a better season than Rice.
Hyatt went to the Giants so we will never know now.


He's career is already over
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Hyatt went to the Giants so we will never know now.


He's career is already over
Ahaha

That's harsh.
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smh hyatt draftubators already making excuses
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See: Giant Toney vs Chief Toney
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Hyatt went to the Giants so we will never know now.


He's career is already over
Oh, I'm sure Veach will pick him up for a late 3rd in '24 for the stretch run.
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It's more than measurements, it's playing style.

When you watch some Rice tape, he does Hopkins things. The high-pointing the ball. The fighting through contact for the catch. The stuff Hopkins did in Houston that made people think Deshaun Watson was good. You see Rice do those things.

The run after catch stuff. He's an extremely similar skillset.

No, I'm not saying he's going to be as successful in the NFL as Hopkins, but I can tell you he's a very similar TYPE of receiver with a lot of the same ATTRIBUTES. He's of that style. Not a Hill, not a Waddle, not a DK Metcalf. He's like a Hopkins-type receiver.

Now, he's going to have to clean up his routes, like almost every draftee, and he sometimes has the dropsies on easy catches, which tells me he's trying to run before securing the ball. But these aren't unfixable flaws. The raw material is there.

Without them, he's a top ten pick.

I'll take my chances with Reid, Nagy, and Mahomes to get his best football out of him.
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Old 04-28-2023, 10:10 PM   #344
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Ok, I've been watching everything I can about this guy tonight. He is absolutely going to produce for us and could push starting wr territory. This guy is good, I'm pumped. After watching everything I have I actually like him better than Mingo and I was obsessed with Mingo.
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I figured out who he reminds me of...he's very similar to what Michael Gallup was when he got drafted.
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