Josh Uche Traded to Chiefs

[SHOWTIME]

The #Patriots are trading pass-rusher Josh Uche to the #Chiefs, sources tell me and @MikeGarafolo. Coming off a win, KC lands a a new player on the edge. pic.twitter.com/FGnWGIDom3

— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) October 28, 2024

[htismaqe]

Kinda hard to say he sucks, or really anything else, considering he's not playing.

[louie aguiar]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I really just do not understand how this team is rotating its DL. Even going back to the Cam Thomas trade.

What is it they're seeing on film that's compelling them to trade for these guys? And how is it translating so poorly that they're keeping them buried behind absolute scrap like Malik Herring?

This just feels like Hitchens and Sorensen all over again. We're putting guys out there because 'they know the system' but they're not actually very good at playing football.

I forgot we traded for Cam Thomas. I don’t recall seeing him at all this year. Spags definitely likes his guys.

[nicksdad]

I don’t post much . Is it an issue that I posted direct knowledge when I did . He could still help . I support the trade but when someone says Myles garret is my first choice and uche is my second choice is like saying my first choice is Sydney Sweeney and my second choice is Roseanne Barr

[New World Order]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Kinda hard to say he sucks, or really anything else, considering he's not playing.

Maybe it’s because he sucks, I dunno

[-King-]

Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief

I’m betting they want him to learn the system fully, and could also be saving him for the playoffs or at least later in the season. We haven’t really had a guy like him in the Spags era, so maybe they are developing packages that include him that will be used later on.

Or he might just suck shit. Guess we’ll find out.

Doubt that. He's a DE. See ball, get ball. You shouldn't need to install different packages or plays or be deep in the playbook for that.

[O.city]

As great as he is, Spags tends to play his guys way to long. Sorenson, Hitchens etc.

No surprise we've had our best defenses when the young guys....play.

[Sassy Squatch]

Personnel management on both sides of the ball has been pretty subpar this season IMO. A couple of them are downright inexplicable.

[RunKC]

Get this kid on the morher****ing field man. Damn.

Also..FAU. Good God

edge rusher pass rush metrics pic.twitter.com/VATfKeEJ2o

— Timo Riske (@PFF_Moo) November 21, 2024

[TEX]

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch

Personnel management on both sides of the ball has been pretty subpar this season IMO. A couple of them are downright inexplicable.

True. But hopefully they'll adjust. Kind of reminds me of last year, when everyone was screaming for less Moore and more r
Rice. Down the stretch, we got it, and it made a huge difference.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Get this kid on the morher****ing field man. Damn.

Also..FAU. Good God

edge rusher pass rush metrics pic.twitter.com/VATfKeEJ2o

— Timo Riske (@PFF_Moo) November 21, 2024

I'm trying to figure out exactly how to read that graphic.

By a certain way of looking at it, FAU hasn't been bad. The horizontal axis just says how hard the assignment is, right?

Well if the vertical access, which purportedly tracks "production above expected" -- wouldn't the 'expected' take the degree of difficulty into equation? I think that's why so many of those guys are clumped in the middle, otherwise one would think that the left side of the axis full of guys with easy assignments would actually have more guys well above the middle.

What that chart seems to say is that FAU has had a fairly easy go of things thus far but has at least been almost exactly as expected given the relative easy job he's had.

EDIT: No, it's actually even better than that -- by being at the far left of the scale, he's actually drawn some REALLY tough assignments. And so him being at roughly what he's been expected to do against those tough asks is fairly admirable.

Meanwhile Karlaftis is at roughly the same performance rate and has drawn easier assignments, which would explain why he's had more production than FAU.

I think that chart suggests that we're kinda sending FAU out there to die a bit and despite that he's been...okay.

[DJ's left nut]

I was gonna say "well thank God Danna doesn't have enough reps to make the chart..."

Sadly, he does. I just hadn't looked low enough to find him.

The 'Good God' on this chart belongs to that guy. Danna has been just awful this season. It's time to very seriously consider making him a 2-down player with Uche and FAU getting essentially ALL of his pass rush reps. And I wouldn't be opposed to getting FAU more reps on 1st down as well.

Danna is really hurting us out there. And I suspect Herring would be as bad or worse.

[louie aguiar]

I’m not sure I’m following… how exactly does Myles freaking Garrett have one of the lowest difficulty of assignments? That guy gets a ton of attention.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I'm trying to figure out exactly how to read that graphic.

By a certain way of looking at it, FAU hasn't been bad. The horizontal axis just says how hard the assignment is, right?

Well if the vertical access, which purportedly tracks "production above expected" -- wouldn't the 'expected' take the degree of difficulty into equation? I think that's why so many of those guys are clumped in the middle, otherwise one would think that the left side of the axis full of guys with easy assignments would actually have more guys well above the middle.

What that chart seems to say is that FAU has had a fairly easy go of things thus far but has at least been almost exactly as expected given the relative easy job he's had.

EDIT: No, it's actually even better than that -- by being at the far left of the scale, he's actually drawn some REALLY tough assignments. And so him being at roughly what he's been expected to do against those tough asks is fairly admirable.

Meanwhile Karlaftis is at roughly the same performance rate and has drawn easier assignments, which would explain why he's had more production than FAU.

I think that chart suggests that we're kinda sending FAU out there to die a bit and despite that he's been...okay.

That's how I read it.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief

I’m betting they want him to learn the system fully, and could also be saving him for the playoffs or at least later in the season. We haven’t really had a guy like him in the Spags era, so maybe they are developing packages that include him that will be used later on.

Or he might just suck shit. Guess we’ll find out.

He's a speed rusher. On 3rd downs, what the hell else is there to 'learn'?

Send him out there to rocket off the edge and at least attempt to pull the LT out wide to give a rushing lane for Jones or Wharton.

The fact that Danna and Herring are getting 3rd down reps is just poor personnel management. There's no real excuse for it. "He needs to learn the system" is hubris and nothing more. It's a coach thinking his system is more important than the players running it.

To an extent it CAN be. But not when you're talking about sending guys like Herring and Danna out there to just get stood straight up.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by louie aguiar

I’m not sure I’m following… how exactly does Myles freaking Garrett have one of the lowest difficulty of assignments? That guy gets a ton of attention.

He doesn't.

That's the mistake I made as well.

He actually has one of the HIGHEST degrees of difficulty. The chart reads right to left in terms of difficulty. Left side is a lower expected pass rush grade and thus a higher level of opponent difficulty.

Easy mistake to make but the chart starts to make a lot more sense when you pick through it a bit.