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Old 04-29-2022, 06:44 PM  
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Old 10-03-2023, 08:33 AM   #3421
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This is also such a bullshit response. What's the point of even being here discussing anything if that's your response? If whatever they do is correct and not worth discussing.....what's our purpose here?
Yeah, Pitt can kindly get ****ed with that nonsense.
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Old 10-03-2023, 08:40 AM   #3422
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You should probably tell Andy. Unbelievable that he's doing the wrong thing here.
Never understood this argument. We can love the hell out of Andy and veach while recognizing they’re not perfect. We had a year of info on skyy and yet made the mistake of planning around him being a primary target. We also sat on ceh way longer than we should have. I trust he will make the right call but he’s not infallible.
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Old 10-03-2023, 09:10 AM   #3423
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that's literally all Pitt Gorilla brings to the board, though. "Herp derp, ____ fan is dumb, herp derp"
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Old 10-03-2023, 09:16 AM   #3424
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Oh stuff it, jesus christ.

One can disagree with the regime on a chatboard, ace.

Or should we also keep sending Skyy Moore out there for 75% of the routes and using Clyde Edwards Helaire on outside zone runs?
I wonder if Moore’s low number of targets are a product of him being unable to get open or Pat not trusting him. If it’s him not getting open that is a big problem. Trust can be earned in time.
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Old 10-03-2023, 09:20 AM   #3425
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I wonder if Moore’s low number of targets are a product of him being unable to get open or Pat not trusting him. If it’s him not getting open that is a big problem. Trust can be earned in time.
I think he struggles to get open while staying on time.

Just a complete layperson's view of things, but it's what I see.

Like I said above - the twitter thread where he jerks inside and foot fires before making his break outside had people swooning but that's not really a great route to be running in a timing offense. You took a false step to get your outside release and in so doing, pushed the timing off if that's a rhythm throw.

Now it was a backside throw so it really wasn't timing specific, but it's still the kind of route where you'd really prefer see him get that separation in a single movement. And that's how he'd have had to have done it on the out route he dicked up on Sunday because that WAS a front-side/timing route.

And low and behold, he didn't get much separation nor did he run a decent route.

It just looks more and more to me like he's simply not very good. He's a collection of mediocre traits that will make for a mediocre player that's exactly as good as the space Andy can create for him. And that's IF he stops getting lazy with his routes.
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I think he struggles to get open while staying on time.

Just a complete layperson's view of things, but it's what I see.

Like I said above - the twitter thread where he jerks inside and foot fires before making his break outside had people swooning but that's not really a great route to be running in a timing offense. You took a false step to get your outside release and in so doing, pushed the timing off if that's a rhythm throw.

Now it was a backside throw so it really wasn't timing specific, but it's still the kind of route where you'd really prefer see him get that separation in a single movement. And that's how he'd have had to have done it on the out route he dicked up on Sunday because that WAS a front-side/timing route.

And low and behold, he didn't get much separation nor did he run a decent route.

It just looks more and more to me like he's simply not very good. He's a collection of mediocre traits that will make for a mediocre player that's exactly as good as the space Andy can create for him. And that's IF he stops getting lazy with his routes.
Appreciate that feedback. I need to start watching that with him.
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Oh stuff it, jesus christ.

One can disagree with the regime on a chatboard, ace.

Or should we also keep sending Skyy Moore out there for 75% of the routes and using Clyde Edwards Helaire on outside zone runs?
Agreed. I just want to be clear that the thinking is that Andy is misusing Rice.
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Old 10-03-2023, 10:03 AM   #3428
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No.

My thinking is that if you're drafting a guy in the first or second round, they shouldn't need to "sit and learn" and soak up a contract year. Guys learn by getting on the field and if they can't get on the field early, don't draft them.

Now someone will throw out "But Mahomes"
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Old 10-03-2023, 10:05 AM   #3429
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Never understood this argument. We can love the hell out of Andy and veach while recognizing they’re not perfect. We had a year of info on skyy and yet made the mistake of planning around him being a primary target. We also sat on ceh way longer than we should have. I trust he will make the right call but he’s not infallible.
There's a LOT of those sorts of "yOu ThInK YoU'Re BeTTeR ThaN ReID Do YOu?!" comments. Every thread, all the time. Same re Veach. It's dumb.
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Oh stuff it, jesus christ.

One can disagree with the regime on a chatboard, ace.

Or should we also keep sending Skyy Moore out there for 75% of the routes and using Clyde Edwards Helaire on outside zone runs?
That's the one thing they do that annoys me to no end, if CEH had been a 5th round pick, he wouldn't even be on the team.

They are committed to giving CEH and Moore snaps because of draft position not what they do on the field.
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That's the one thing they do that annoys me to no end, if CEH had been a 5th round pick, he wouldn't even be on the team.

They are committed to giving CEH and Moore snaps because of draft position not what they do on the field.
Meh I don't agree.

CEH was down to 9% snaps this past week and I feel only played as much in the first few weeks because of Pacheco being a little banged up. Regardless of what people think of CEH being a wasted pick he is still a serviceable backup for Pacheco.

Moore, still young with lots of promise. Who is better than him on the roster at this point?
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That's the one thing they do that annoys me to no end, if CEH had been a 5th round pick, he wouldn't even be on the team.

They are committed to giving CEH and Moore snaps because of draft position not what they do on the field.
I think ceh gets snaps because he's bought and paid for. They could have cut him but it would cost cap space and you have to replace him. So they kept him for his final year because he knows the system and can soak up some snaps to keep the other two backs healthy for the homestretch.
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I think ceh gets snaps because he's bought and paid for. They could have cut him but it would cost cap space and you have to replace him. So they kept him for his final year because he knows the system and can soak up some snaps to keep the other two backs healthy for the homestretch.
Jerrick has clearly lost a step and Deneric did absolutely dick to earn a roster spot.

CEH is here because he's the 2nd best RB we've got.
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Moore needs to use less energy celebrating after making a productive play for a first down.

He acts like he does not expect to make a better play later. Tone it down, dude.
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