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The man you could post like.
Join Date: Oct 2010
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But......Why?
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#3407 |
It's a league game, Dude
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Itasca, IL
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#3408 |
#triggering
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Tejas
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David Arquet must have been busy.
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#3409 |
In Search of a Life
Join Date: Mar 2006
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#3410 |
It's a league game, Dude
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#3411 |
Hockey Town
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Kansas City, Missouri
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I'm going to get very real about all of this for a moment here...I've been a fan of wrestling for basically my entire life and honestly today I'm probably less of a fan than I've ever been before.
I feel like the entire world of wrestling is so bland and just everything is the same. I know we'll never see the attitude era again and honestly that stuff did resonate with me at the time because of my age. But it's not even that, todays wrestling is a world where everyone can work or most everyone far more than ever before, yet the character work is terrible. I've come to this realization a roster full of A+ workers mean nothing when their characters suck ass and give me no reason to care about them. I'll buy anyone will compete or even have a good product when I see it, I question if any product can even be good these days when everyone is offended about everything. Because honestly if AEW is just a straight wrestling show...sure that's ok but it's not going to really hook me. Basically wrestling is a bunch of vanilla midgets these days. |
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#3412 |
The pizza king of kansas
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Somewhere in the u.s.a.
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Aew mecca njpw chikara try those places nxt also plus so many new faces orange cassidy, kylie rae, so many good new stuff.
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#3413 |
Hockey Town
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Kansas City, Missouri
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I watched Japanese wrestling back in the day because the work was different and better......today even the WWE is full of dudes who can really work in the ring. The only real difference to me is they'll do crazier bumps and a stiffer style...
My biggest issue in wrestling today is the shitty characters who are hard to invest in and honestly watching dudes who don't speak english isn't gonna help me with that. I can really say this for most of the guys today but for example, Seth Rollins is a really great worker, why should I care about him? There was a time that just being a really great ring worker was enough to set you apart, now NEARLY EVERYONE is a great ring worker so just that bland "I'm the best" bullshit is doing nothing for me. There is truly more in ring talent pretty much everywhere than there has ever been before yet no one stands out. |
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Houston, TX area
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Oddly, during the Monday night wars (when both WWE and WCW were both quite watchable), I preferred the WCW because I thought they had better characters AND better in-ring action. The WWE's strength was it's characters. It's so odd to watch WWE today and see some really good matches and really good in-ring workers who have absolutely no character whatesoever. WWE has forgotten to "dance with the one who brung 'em." |
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#3415 | |
Hockey Town
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Kansas City, Missouri
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The work itself isn't the problem, they just give us no reason to give a shit, no matter how good your work is without a hook people don't care. |
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#3416 | |
It's a league game, Dude
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#3417 |
Hockey Town
Join Date: Apr 2005
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And some dudes suck at character work, I don't exactly think Kenny Omega is a great promo.
It's just kind of frustrating how wrestling in general became a late 90s smark dream of big time workrate and it's boring as ****. |
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Houston, TX area
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There are guys on the roster right now that I think could cut a good promo on their own if creative/Vince would take the hand-cuffs off of them and not script every last word that they say. I'm sure that Seth Rollins, Samoa Joe, AJ Styles, Bray Wyatt, probably Roman Reigns, The Miz, Sami Zayn, and more would be far mote interesting to watch if they were allowed to "own" their character more and free-lance on the mic a bit. |
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#3419 |
In Search of a Life
Join Date: Mar 2006
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Wrestling is going to get better once Vince finally dies. Maybe the XFL failing again and Vince losing all of his money will finally do it.
The quality of the workers definitely isn't the issue. The problem is that they only value the brand and ultimately everybody and everything will be marginalized to prop up the brand. 50-50 booking to keep dub ya anove all except for 1 to 2 guys that are lap dogs to generate revenue for the brand. All the workers and even the announcers and interviewers are micro managed to hell and back to make sure the brand is being put over. Over and over and over. The Mcmahon's are WWE, hence why they can't stop putting themselves over everyone else whenever they feel like they want to. The storylines are all ****ing shit because they have to meet targets that investors demand and they have to crash book the **** out of everything to pop numbers. It's only going to get worse when the networks are paying more for the content and USA and FOX will get pissed if the other network and show does better. The deals haven't even started yet and USA is already super antsy. They've already totally pissed away the brand split even though FOX wants nothing to do with promoting Raw. |
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It's a league game, Dude
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