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Old 04-27-2017, 07:19 PM  
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Old 09-12-2022, 12:04 PM   #33841
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Who cares what PFF says with their crappy matrix of shit. We know Mahomes is the best and yesterday he proved it again.
Hopefully it fuels Mahomes' fire to keep making these people look like morons. That's the second time he has been listed #8 recently. Maybe he'll drop a 8 TD game on them soon.
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Monson tried to point to the INT that the DB dropped as a play that should be marked against Mahomes, while completely glossing over the fact it was a free throw down field on an obvious offsides.
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Old 09-12-2022, 12:12 PM   #33843
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Monson tried to point to the INT that the DB dropped as a play that should be marked against Mahomes, while completely glossing over the fact it was a free throw down field on an obvious offsides.
I don't get why people don't understand those are 100% free throws to do whatever you want with. Mahomes can do whatever he wants on those play.
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Old 09-12-2022, 12:13 PM   #33844
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Monson tried to point to the INT that the DB dropped as a play that should be marked against Mahomes, while completely glossing over the fact it was a free throw down field on an obvious offsides.
Nah, Mahomes had two bad throws in the game. One was the defensive offsides play, but the one PFF is talking about was an attempted throw to the end zone. Noah Gray had to prevent the defender from intercepting it. Terrible throw by Mahomes. But ya know what? Josh Allen was also 100% responsible for an interception in his game as well.

The PFF guy acknowledged they were basically equal, yet he has not explained how Allen ended up with a 20 point higher grade. I want an explanation of why Davis Mills and Tom Brady were graded pretty much the same as Mahomes. It's laughable.
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Old 09-12-2022, 12:14 PM   #33845
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It's obvious at this point that they just don't like Mahomes' style of play.
Yeah, over-analyzing risk/reward and maybe things like leaving a clean pocket, throwing across his body, etc.

Glancing through stat lines, I don't really care about Allen's score as he had a really good night... Lamar and Brady relative to Mahomes are the head scratchers, IMO. Lamar completed 56% for 214, 3 TDs, 1 INT.. sacked twice and only 17 yards on the ground.

Yeah, just throw out the algorithms and start over.
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Monson tried to point to the INT that the DB dropped as a play that should be marked against Mahomes, while completely glossing over the fact it was a free throw down field on an obvious offsides.
Also, I never get their fascination with "expected" turnovers.

Some plays you can clearly say, "Yeah, that should have been a turnover," but I'll bet not ALL of them are that clear and do require some subjectivity. So where does the line get drawn?

If I'm reading this correctly, Josh Allen's two actual picks (one of them not his fault at all and one of them kind of was) didn't dock him as much as Mahomes' one expected turnover... ON A FREAKIN OFFSIDES FREE PLAY

It's maddening. I have no idea how these choads stay in business.
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firing off panic tweets adding fuel to the fire.
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Old 09-12-2022, 12:25 PM   #33848
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Did you watch any of Tua?

Talk about being exactly what we thought they'd be. "More accurate than Mahomes" was the running joke in my house yesterday.
I watched the entire game. He made some good throws but man did he make some TERRIBLE passes in the short game. They could have had so much more offense if he could avoid short-hopping 6-yard in routes.
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Sean Payton is on Cowherd right now. Says Mahomes was the best QB he ever evaluated. Gushing over him and talking about the Mahomes draft.

Incredible.
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Old story, but cool to see Sean Payton talk about this again. Chiefs traded to the perfect spot to get Patrick. Saints were gonna draft him #11.

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PFF is just embarrassing themselves with this
They are complete reeruns. I don't really know any other way to say it. I watched the Cowboys and Bucs game as well and Brady looked extremely pedestrian.
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Rating all these guys ahead of Patrick reminds me of the old Buddy Ryan quote meant to be dismissive of Chris Carter when he said "All he does is catch touchdown passes."
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PFF is just embarrassing themselves with this
This, right here, is why NO ONE should ever take seriously ANYTHING that PFF puts out there.

Mahomes has one of his Top 5 regular season games in his career, and he's only deemed the 8th best QB from Week 1? I mean, WTF?!?
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What a good dude.
Saw that live. Was hilarious. Pacheco throws the ball and you immediately see Mahomes go over to grab it. I imagine the conversation when he gave it back to him was something like "Uhhh, hey rookie. You're gonna want this ball dumbass."
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