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Old 05-11-2008, 11:49 AM  
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Okay, here is a place for the Golfers to talk about tournaments, clubs, swing help or thoughts.

Today is the Players Championship, which I think ought to be the 5th Major. Largest pot in the PGA. The daunting 17th, which seems to bring excitement every year. At least we will get to see Sergio blow up yet again.

I am ready to see some water balls!
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Old 05-23-2013, 11:16 AM   #3361
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OK, I'll have to ask another stupid question....Why do you say it's not a long term solution?
When people make fixes to their swings they generally tend to overdo it, as what once felt new no longer does, so you strive for the new feeling.

Think of it this way:

You start stretching. You feel a burn once you get to a certain spot. Over time, where you once felt the burn you no longer do, you have to stretch deeper to get the same "burn". Although the feeling is the same in both positions, your body isn't in an identical position.

Sometimes I like to feel like I'm taking the club away with only my right hand. If I haven't been doing this for a while, this can iron out certain shot shapes for me. But, if I've been doing it for a few days my body has actually adjusted to the new feel, and although both days feel like I'm taking it away with my right hand it's much more pronounced on the second or third day, because I'm used to the feeling and do it more, just like you can stretch deeper in subsequent days.

In short: treat your swing like an ongoing dialogue rather than an finished conversation. If you start to notice that the ball is flying all over the place with your "new" stance or you are mishitting it more, move your right foot back up to where it was before. You'll find that you've actually trained yourself to take the club back and down on a more correct path.

The mistake that most amateurs make is doubling down. "The teacher told me to strengthen my grip, now I'm not hitting shots well with that grip any more. Let's go even stronger!"
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Old 05-23-2013, 11:20 AM   #3362
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When you put it like that it makes perfect sense. Thank You
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Old 05-23-2013, 11:25 AM   #3363
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You start stretching. You feel a burn once you get to a certain spot. Over time, where you once felt the burn you no longer do, you have to stretch deeper to get the same "burn". Although the feeling is the same in both positions, your body isn't in an identical position.
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Old 06-01-2013, 09:48 PM   #3365
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I'm currently working on a pretty sizable swing change.

I'm working on increasing the steepness of my shoulder turn. I have a tendency to come out of shots because my shoulder turn is too flat.

Something I noticed on the range tonight whilst struggling is the amount that I don't have to use my arms in the swing. I've always just kind of slung my arms around my spine and made close to a 90 degree turn. I've found that if I focus more on steepening my shoulder turn and I swing my arms my swing gets wayyyy too long, I get really far across the line, and I fat the piss out of the ball.

However, if I assume that my chest and arms form a triangle, then keep the butt of the clubhead inside of that triangle as I turn, I am able to absolutely murder the ball. I still have a hard time turning at the right angle, but I build up some massive torque in the prcoess.
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Old 06-09-2013, 09:03 AM   #3366
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Old 06-09-2013, 01:41 PM   #3367
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I'm currently working on a pretty sizable swing change.

I'm working on increasing the steepness of my shoulder turn. I have a tendency to come out of shots because my shoulder turn is too flat.

Something I noticed on the range tonight whilst struggling is the amount that I don't have to use my arms in the swing. I've always just kind of slung my arms around my spine and made close to a 90 degree turn. I've found that if I focus more on steepening my shoulder turn and I swing my arms my swing gets wayyyy too long, I get really far across the line, and I fat the piss out of the ball.

However, if I assume that my chest and arms form a triangle, then keep the butt of the clubhead inside of that triangle as I turn, I am able to absolutely murder the ball. I still have a hard time turning at the right angle, but I build up some massive torque in the prcoess.
I would imagine with a flat turn you tend to hit alot of hooks when your body gets lazy and the arms turn over as well?

Thats a pretty good change to happen, IMO. Had a close buddy go through the same thing in high school. Our swing coach was a Golf Machine guy as I previously mentioned, so it is a fairly tough transition to go thru. Being flat like that, or single plane, is a decent way to hit long clubs, but it doesn't make sense to me to hit short irons like that.

By being more upright like you are working on, you'll find that you will compress the shit out of the ball, being more of a hitter than a swinger. You'll probably find that it could become a bit more inconsistent driving the ball, but you will become an infinitely better short iron player as your ball striking will improve.

I'm a more upright player and have always played about a 5 yard fade when I'm playing my best with driver and long clubs and about a 10 foot one with the short clubs, and IMO, it's a better and more controlled way to play. I'm a taller guy so I am able to get alot of leverage and lag thru the ball, so I've never struggled with distance, so hitting a fade is fine with me.

But anyway, IMO, this will be a good transition for you. I don't know if you have access to video of yourself, but if you are interested I can send you some stuff that my buddy worked on when he was making a similar transition that works pretty well.
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