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[TEX]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

No, 3 straight is crossing the line. This was a once in a lifetime thing, I'm sure of it.

Meh...Until next year, when you'll be sure it wont be 4...

[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by TEX

They just might, since they're irrelevant. And IF they do stop getting special treatment by the schedule makers, they'll be out of it by the end of October.
And you'll still be running your shtick on how it doesn't matter...

I still don't buy into it as this major advantage. I think the altitude is what it is in August or December. I would MUCH rather have more at home later in the year. I'll never change that. We'll just agree to disagree... rather than debate that into eternity.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

1-5 at home after the bogus first two weeks (which Denver always seems to get at home) was TEX and mine's point. It's the EARLY week advantage that gifts cheap wins

Deal is, he and I have literally been having this discussion for over a decade - and every year, when they get gifted an early season home heavy schedule, he loses ground... Yet comes back stronger than ever the following year as to why it doesn't matter.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

I still don't buy into it as this major advantage. I think the altitude is what it is in August or December. I would MUCH rather have more at home later in the year. I'll never change that. We'll just agree to disagree... rather than debate that into eternity.

Of course you won't change your opinion, especially if you haven't after these past few seasons. I've accepted that. Its just fun to point it out to you EVERY year...which I will certainly also do into eternity.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

They were something like 20-1 the first two weeks at home...and it doesn't matter. Ohhhkay. Some VERY bad Broncos teams in that mix too, especially the last two years.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Last two years...4-0 to start the year. 6-22 finish. Doesn't matter. Suuuuuuure

[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by TEX

Deal is, he and I have literally been having this discussion for over a decade - and every year, when they get gifted an early season home heavy schedule, he loses ground... Yet comes back stronger than ever the following year as to why it doesn't matter.

Over the decade, there have been some strong teams... and I don't think timing of location mattered much. Hell, in 2015 - they won a SB starting 4 of 6 on the road. But, then there's the whole league gave them the Papa Johns SB item--- so that negates that one. You guys certainly have the bases covered.

And, go back to 2010 ... looking at all those early season home games in the first few weeks, they certainly didn't win them all. So, that doesn't help the 'inflated wins' theory right?

2010 - first 2 of 3 at home, went 1-1 at home
2011 - first 2 at home, went 1-1 losing the opener
2012 - first 2 of 3 at home, went 1-1 at home
2013 - first 3 of 4 at home, won 'em all on way to 13 wins
2014 - first 3 of 4 at home, won 'em all on way to 12 wins
2015 - first 2 of 6 at home (wk 1 and 4), won both on way to 12 wins
2016 - first 2 of 4 at home, won both
2017 - first 4 of 5 at home, won 3
2018 - first 3 of 4 at home, won 2

2015 - 2 home / 4 road and 2017 - 4 home / 1 road are the two real extremes. In 2015, the good team fought through it and won. In 2017, they weren't a good team and failed.

I'm still perplexed as to why there would be a focused effort to give Denver early home games on purpose. In the end, I think it evens out - the downside to that schedule is they are playing on the road late when they are beaten up and chasing playoff aspirations.

This idea that it artificially inflates wins is bogus to me... look at 2010, 2011, 2012.. 2013-2015, those were very good teams.

I guess if you want to argue that the last two seasons, Denver would be a win or 2 less and still just suck outright with sub .500 records. Sure, go for it - they either suck with 3 wins or 5 wins in those years.

I just don't see where the advantage was in the other years.

[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

Last two years...4-0 to start the year. 6-22 finish. Doesn't matter. Suuuuuuure

Chargers/Cowboys
Seahawks/Raiders

Not really shocking.

[Mile High Mania]

Ok, going back to my pit of misery and sincerely... I hope Denver has 3 of 4 on the road to start in 2019.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

Last two years...4-0 to start the year. 6-22 finish. Doesn't matter. Suuuuuuure

The FUNNY thing about the past two seasons is that EVERYONE called the collapse, the minute they hit the road. This year B-more and the J-E-T-S, JETS, JETS, JETS served to drive that point home.

But... but...but....they get no advantage getting off to a good start, with a front loaded home schedule, playing at high altitude.

[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by TEX

The FUNNY thing about the past two seasons is that EVERYONE called the collapse, the minute they hit the road. This year B-more and the J-E-T-S, JETS, JETS, JETS served to drive that point home.

But... but...but....they get no advantage getting off to a good start, with a front loaded home schedule, playing at high altitude.

Ok, so ... Denver was really a 3 win and 4 win team the last 2 seasons. Is that really something to get outraged about?

Going back to 2010 - are you agreeing there's merit to my dismissiveness on the topic or no?

[TEX]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Over the decade, there have been some strong teams... and I don't think timing of location mattered much. Hell, in 2015 - they won a SB starting 4 of 6 on the road. But, then there's the whole league gave them the Papa Johns SB item--- so that negates that one. You guys certainly have the bases covered.

And, go back to 2010 ... looking at all those early season home games in the first few weeks, they certainly didn't win them all. So, that doesn't help the 'inflated wins' theory right?

2010 - first 2 of 3 at home, went 1-1 at home
2011 - first 2 at home, went 1-1 losing the opener
2012 - first 2 of 3 at home, went 1-1 at home
2013 - first 3 of 4 at home, won 'em all on way to 13 wins
2014 - first 3 of 4 at home, won 'em all on way to 12 wins
2015 - first 2 of 6 at home (wk 1 and 4), won both on way to 12 wins
2016 - first 2 of 4 at home, won both
2017 - first 4 of 5 at home, won 3
2018 - first 3 of 4 at home, won 2

2015 - 2 home / 4 road and 2017 - 4 home / 1 road are the two real extremes. In 2015, the good team fought through it and won. In 2017, they weren't a good team and failed.

I'm still perplexed as to why there would be a focused effort to give Denver early home games on purpose. In the end, I think it evens out - the downside to that schedule is they are playing on the road late when they are beaten up and chasing playoff aspirations.

This idea that it artificially inflates wins is bogus to me... look at 2010, 2011, 2012.. 2013-2015, those were very good teams.

I guess if you want to argue that the last two seasons, Denver would be a win or 2 less and still just suck outright with sub .500 records. Sure, go for it - they either suck with 3 wins or 5 wins in those years.

I just don't see where the advantage was in the other years.

Let the word-smithing begin!

[TEX]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Ok, so ... Denver was really a 3 win and 4 win team the last 2 seasons. Is that really something to get outraged about?

Going back to 2010 - are you agreeing there's merit to my dismissiveness on the topic or no?

Nope. You will never convince me..."agree to disagree into eternity"...Who does that sound like?

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Denver is like 20-1 the first two weeks at home, so his data isn't adding up

[Pasta Little Brioni]

31-4 in early season home games the last 35 games. No advantage