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Old 04-29-2022, 06:44 PM  
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Old 09-25-2023, 06:50 AM   #3316
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seems like he's coming along. Good to see.
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Old 09-25-2023, 06:53 AM   #3317
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Yes. Still not quite where we'd all like him to be but definite progress the past two weeks.
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Old 09-25-2023, 07:29 AM   #3318
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4/42 was the kind of game I was expecting from him early in his rookie season. I had him going for 600ish yards as a rookie.

So he's a year behind where I hoped he'd be. That's not the end of the world.

If he manages 650-700 yards this season he's...fine. He's on course to be a solid possession option for a few years before he likely gets layered and we move on.

That's not a bad pick at that point.
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Old 09-25-2023, 07:57 AM   #3319
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This kid is going to be just fine. I like what he brings in terms of attitude on the field. He's never going to be a #1, that's Rice IMO, but he can be a great #2 type WR.
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Old 09-25-2023, 08:00 AM   #3320
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This kid is going to be just fine. I like what he brings in terms of attitude on the field. He's never going to be a #1, that's Rice IMO, but he can be a great #2 type WR.
Great #2 receivers go for 1,000 yards and 8 scores. He ain't gonna be that either.

But he can be a very good 3rd option, IMO.

800ish seems like a viable long-term target mark for him.

Again, it's a tools thing. They're just not standout. He's going to do as much as the system allows him to do and once he leaves KC, he's going to fade away in a couple years.

But if he can become a solid 3rd receving option here for 3-4 years before that happens, you just shrug, forget about the opportunity cost and move along. At that point it's just a pretty average 2nd round pick rather than any sort of bust.

So...fine. That works.
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Old 09-25-2023, 09:47 AM   #3321
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nice route but what throw by Gabbert
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nice route but what throw by Gabbert
Damn, tell me that guy can't run a killer route
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Old 09-25-2023, 10:03 AM   #3323
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Damn, tell me that guy can't run a killer route
A lot of what he does is unnecessary white noise against a quality CB, though. It's needless window dressing that throws the timing off.

But that said, the issue isn't 'can' he run a good route - it's how often he does so. He has to be more consistent and THAT'S what will get him more targets. Especially on timing routes.

That will be such a massive deal for this offense that's so dependent on precise timing. It isn't about him making 6 dekes and finding space on a scramble drill. He needs to do that on time in the offense so we can start looking at him early in the progression and fire it knowing that he's going to be where he needs to be.

That's the development we need to see. A route like that one doesn't really move the needle for me a ton.
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big picture though - there's a hell of a lot more to WR success than just raw talent (athleticism,) I'd argue instincts as well as free lancing are equally as important, and the last two are where I am finally seeing some growth from week-to-week.
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That route is what I mean when I say he can be our slot guy.

Also still laughing at that rando that said Skyy can't run routes
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That route is what I mean when I say he can be our slot guy.

Also still laughing at that rando that said Skyy can't run routes
Skyy can't run routes.

Not with the necessary timing and consistency.
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Being on the same page as the QB and being able to run routes aren't the same thing.
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That will be such a massive deal for this offense that's so dependent on precise timing. It isn't about him making 6 dekes and finding space on a scramble drill. He needs to do that on time in the offense so we can start looking at him early in the progression and fire it knowing that he's going to be where he needs to be.

That's the development we need to see. A route like that one doesn't really move the needle for me a ton.
You know what would've moved the needle for me?

Being able to run a simple !@#$ing quick out on 3rd down inside the 10 to pick up a 1st down.

Y'all have got to stop falling in love with this foot-fire bullshit. That's NOT how he is going to be successful in this league. It works in the MAC but it won't work in the NFL.

Guy needs to hit his mark, make his cut and get separation. THAT'S an NFL caliber route. Throwing in 6 dekes to finally get free doesn't do us much good at all.
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Being on the same page as the QB and being able to run routes aren't the same thing.
Rounding off a simple quick out and not having the proper depth is absolutely the same thing as not being able to run a route.

He's not on the same page with his QB because he runs sloppy routes. Routinely.

You're falling for flash over substance because the substance isn't there. Devante Adams runs routes - Skyy Moore just moves his feet a lot and rounds his shit off.

Route running is about timing and location. Moore is awful at both of those things. You keep wanting to give him credit for stuff that works in 1v1 drills and that's just not how an NFL offense operates. If you can't get where you're supposed to be, when you're supposed to be there, you're not running quality routes.

Moore doesn't.
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