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*****The Patrick Mahomes Thread*****
IT ****ING HAPPENED
OP UPDATE: Because of all the interest in this thread, I've place all of the video content of Patrick Mahomes II's college career, and draft day goodness into a single post that can be found here. Enjoy! Last edited by Dante84; 05-17-2017 at 09:40 AM.. |
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I found a photo from a long time ago when Alex Smith couldn't beat the Cover 2. Titled the "cover 2 monster".
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#33032 |
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Why Allen? Outside of one regular season game Allen has never beaten Mahomes. Mahomes puts up better stats than Allen and he has more MVPs and SB MVPs/rings than everyone combined outside Rodgers. It’s just media nonsense.
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#33033 |
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If they're going to put anyone at or near Mahomes, it'd be either a Rodgers or Allen.
Allen is really ****ing good. You say he hasn't beaten Mahomes, but Mahomes also hasn't beaten Brady in the postseason. QBs don't really play each other and they don't have the same OL, WRs, etc. |
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To put it in simple terms, Allen had less yards, less tds and more interceptions while his team won less games than Mahomes but he did this with a easier schedule than Mahomes had as well.
It’s just fairy tale nonsense to try and list Allen above or equal with Mahomes. |
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I'd say Mahomes and Allen were about equal in this year's Divisional Round. Allen was better in KC earlier this year and Mahomes was better the prior two games (2020 AFCCG and @BUF 2020). Allen is being weighted heavily off his last couple games, which were insane, but that is normal in the NFL. When he's playing his best, he is absolutely one of the best 3 QBs in the league - right up there with Mahomes and Rodgers. Quote:
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I’m sorry I should have clarified, more PASSING tds. Better completion percentage as well. And again Mahomes had a much harder schedule.
As of now yes Rodgers and Brady are ahead of Mahomes due to longevity and consistency. But please do tell why Allen would be equal? Is it his MVP’s regular season or SB? Nope. Maybe SB wins or even appearances…. again nope.. but maybe because of Allens last 2 years he is equal or better??? How genius? You sure love to fall for fake media hype. They want it to be true as everyone wants to see the king knocked off. They did this with Brady every year too until the last 6-7 years of his career when not even the most extra chromosomed people could make a case with a straight face. Josh Allen is a better runner and if they played RB your dumbass would have a case |
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Why are you such a bitch****? Were you born that way? Did your parents not love you enough or something? |
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So according to your logic, there is no argument for Mahomes to be the best QB in the league these last couple years. Quote:
Even if I were just looking at the numbers, Allen had a better year than Mahomes in 2020 so it's a lot closer than you're making it seem. Do rushing TDs count for less points than passing TDs, you ****ing dipshit? This isn't a Lamar Jackson situation where the dude clearly can't throw the football. Comparing their contributions on the ground is 100% valid in this case, as it would be if I were comparing Mahomes to Brady. |
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Nobody would trade Mahomes for Allen straight up, except for Bills fans. Allen's accuracy turns to shit under pressure, unless DBs are falling down or blowing coverages.
That running shit is cute now, but he'll pay for it sooner, rather than later. |
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Regular season Rodgers was better than Mahomes, hence the two straight MVPs. Playoff Rodgers is not though. Brady did put up better numbers than Mahomes this year because Patrick went through a slump, not arguing that. Is he better at this stage? No. But he did put up great numbers with a more talented offense with an easier schedule. |
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You realize Mahomes' extra possession in OT is tainting your memory of the game? Mahomes added 69 passing yards and 1 passing TD in that period. A period in which Allen didn't get a chance to touch the ball. Without that extra drive, Mahomes ends up with 309 passing yards to Allen's 329. 2 passing TDs to Allen's 4. 69 rushing yards to Allen's 68. 1 rushing TD to Allen's 0. Those two QBs were about as equal as you can be in that game. |
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He's not as good as you think he is. |
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How about the fact that Mahomes was playing with a first ballot HoF TE and HoF talent WR1 behind what ended up being one of the better OLs in the league? |
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