Funny Stuff New Conference re-alignment thread - Page 220

**Saulbadguy** · 09-12-2011, 07:57 AM

The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.

**HemiEd** · 10-05-2011, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ReeTodd_KC

IF the SEC went to KU and said come on, we want your basketball history...

Every KU fan in the world would tell Texas and OU to cram it up their cram holes were going to the SEC...

In the blink of an eye.

So you don't really believe in the loyalty to the big 12 as an entity? It is only about money and what an individual school can do for themselves?

Why not just go independent then?

**DeezNutz** · 10-05-2011, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

So you don't really believe in the loyalty to the big 12 as an entity? It is only about money and what an individual school can do for themselves?

Why not just go independent then?

The Big XII has absolutely no history. This is the equivalent of arguing to stay loyal to the town whore.

The last point isn't at all connected to any of this.

Stewie · 10-05-2011, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

And the new SEC tv contracts are expected to blow the doors off anything out there right now - you know, the conference that has won five straight NC's and wins the national ratings every week - but I figured it would be more fair to deal with the current contracts.

And it should with at least a 14-team league. The problem is that ABC/ESPN etc. don't give a shit about teams at the bottom of such a big league and don't negotiate based on the size of the conference. Yet, the Miss. States and Vanderbilts get an equal share. That's the sucking sound. The reason I mentioned a 16-team conference as probably untenable is because it makes the situation even worse between the top teams and bottom teams.

duncan_idaho · 10-05-2011, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach|

The conference that just got a foot hold in Texas and the Missouri markets by taking 2 of the top 4 most valuable teams in the B12.

The conference that just added 31 million people to its footprint... which is a 56 percent increase in its footprint.

Yeah. TV deal will bump up, considerably.

**DeezNutz** · 10-05-2011, 03:21 PM

KK must be a Chiefs fan: don't go to the SEC because the teams there are good.

The schedule will be difficult!!!

Discuss Thrower · 10-05-2011, 03:22 PM

Never have I ever heard someone stitch themselves a clown suit on live radio.

**HemiEd** · 10-05-2011, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

The Big XII has absolutely no history. This is the equivalent of arguing to stay loyal to the town whore.

The last point isn't at all connected to any of this.

I guess we look at both points differently.

The big12 was an outgrowth of the big8, which was an outgrowth of the big6, etc. etc. . Lots of history.

Stewie · 10-05-2011, 03:24 PM

Ya know, if MU leaves, the big loser in all of this is KCMO and Jackson County. That's million$ in revenue between the b-ball tourney and the game at Arrowhead. I guess that loss is just transferred to the MU athletic department. Good for them.

ChiefsCountry · 10-05-2011, 03:25 PM

Since the state of Missouri is so important for the Big 12 I guess Missouri State should be getting a call soon then.

**DeezNutz** · 10-05-2011, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

I guess we look at both points differently.

The big12 was an outgrowth of the big8, which was an outgrowth of the big6, etc. etc. . Lots of history.

And I would love to turn back the clock on this whole bullshit.

talastan · 10-05-2011, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Since the state of Missouri is so important for the Big 12 I guess Missouri State should be getting a call soon then.

That would be somewhat hilarious if the Big XII extends an offer to MSU. I live here in Springfield and I'll tell you that Missouri State would get killed against any Division I school. Check out their game against Oregon a couple of weeks ago for an example.

|Zach| · 10-05-2011, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Since the state of Missouri is so important for the Big 12 I guess Missouri State should be getting a call soon then.

Niiice.

**HemiEd** · 10-05-2011, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Since the state of Missouri is so important for the Big 12 I guess Missouri State should be getting a call soon then.

They are an improving program, with a football team.

|Zach| · 10-05-2011, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by talastan

That would be somewhat hilarious if the Big XII extends an offer to MSU. I live here in Springfield and I'll tell you that Missouri State would get killed against any Division I school. Check out their game against Oregon a couple of weeks ago for an example.

They don't have a DIV 1 worthy stadium.

eazyb81 · 10-05-2011, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by talastan

That would be somewhat hilarious if the Big XII extends an offer to MSU. I live here in Springfield and I'll tell you that Missouri State would get killed against any Division I school. Check out their game against Oregon a couple of weeks ago for an example.

I doubt they are very far down the list when they act like Cincinnati and Houston would be great additions.

09-12-2011, 07:57 AM
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