The Fishing Thread

[Easy 6]

Searched around & only found the video fishing & BassMasters threads, i know their are plenty of outdoorsman here, so i figured it'd be cool to draw upon the Planets vast experience in all things fishing.

I only use spincast reels & fish mostly large/smallmouth bass & cats. My choice of reels is quite the source of derision from many people i know 'duffer gear', but i haul in my share of 6 pound bass & 10-20 pound cats on that gear no problem. With a little know-how you can use just about any technique you want to on 'duffer gear'.

Berkley Powerbaits are a big part of my trick bag, the difference between those & regular stuff is night & day. My best action last summer came on Mister Twister scented white curly tail grubs, on one day fishing from shore to a bridge pier, i caught smallies, bigmouths, perch & even 1 carp believe it or not... great day. But my bread & butter is a texas rigged Berkley worm, it'll wiggle through any kind of cover without getting hung up.

With cats i strictly bottom fish, no bobber & bait is just as basic... but its always in 2's to give'em a real treat... a shrimp/with a nightcrawler, liver/chunk of cheese etc. Cats are mostly for night sport to me, time to kick back a lil...

So thats me style, how do the rest of you guys get your fish on? What do you fish for, what do you use? IIRC Missouri's trout season just kicked off, anyone getting anything?

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by booger

How deep do rainbows travel? My best guess in more of a pond setting would be mid level rather than right off the bottom and probably close by to the current?

Bows will die in water temps higher than 70, so in a small Midwestern pond, I'd look for them in the deepest water available, below the thermocline.

[ptlyon]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Bows will die in water temps higher than 70, so in a small Midwestern pond, I'd look for them in the deepest water available, below the thermocline.

Listen to this man. He knows rainbows.

[loochy]

We were in Alaska last week. We caught some king and pink salmon. My son had a blast.

[srvy]

Is that mom with the biggest catch?

[loochy]

Originally Posted by srvy

Is that mom with the biggest catch?

Yeah, but I don't remember who actually caught it. We just threw them in the well and grabbed them back out randomly for pictures.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by booger

How deep do rainbows travel? My best guess in more of a pond setting would be mid level rather than right off the bottom and probably close by to the current?

There's current? How is there current?

If there's current, the trout will be in or near it. If you're talking about an old creekbed scenario, they'll be in the creekbed, and will be patrolling/ambushing prey that approaches the sides of the creekbed.

If it's a creek/stream inflow, they'll be facing into that, probably near the bottom, though they might rise closer to the surface around 4am local for a few hours.


Rainbows have been caught as deep as 60+ feet in some reservoirs.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by loochy

We were in Alaska last week. We caught some king and pink salmon. My son had a blast.

Awesome.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by srvy

Is that mom with the biggest catch?

FYI I'm the guy in the bottom picture. The guy in the top picture is the fishing guide.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by loochy

FYI I'm the guy in the bottom picture. The guy in the top picture is the fishing guide.

Looks ****ing awesome man. Good stuff.

[Graystoke]

Originally Posted by loochy

FYI I'm the guy in the bottom picture. The guy in the top picture is the fishing guide.

Way to bring us down.
JK, looks like an awesome time. Get any flyfishing in?

[loochy]

Originally Posted by Graystoke

Way to bring us down.
JK, looks like an awesome time. Get any flyfishing in?

Nah, no fly fishing. It was an Alaskan cruise, so we just picked up a guide that took us out to troll for salmon (and if that wouldnt have worked then we would have moved to rockfish). The best part was we took the catch to a wilderness camp where the guide cooked the fish for us. While fishing we saw several humpback whales breaching. It was an awesome day.

[Megatron96]

Lol, had something similar, though not quite as wild, happen to me last year with a leopard bow.

https://fb.watch/lzs6uJYBcT/

[scho63]

Just watched "Beyond the Lens" on PBS and the show was about going to a remote camp in Alaska during the summer to fish for Silverside Salmon on Becharof Lake. The largest Salmon run in the World and one of the most remote, desolate places around. I'm not a fisherman but it was pretty cool.

[ChiefsFan63]

Originally Posted by loochy

We were in Alaska last week. We caught some king and pink salmon. My son had a blast.

Good times!

[Otter]

They Caught the Fish, but the $3.5 Million Prize Got Away

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Spoiler!

The guys aboard Sensation celebrated like lottery winners when they boated a monster marlin in the last hours of the fishing tournament. The party ended when they got back to shore.

Ashley Bleau, left, owner of the Sensation, and its captain, Greg McCoy, in Morehead City, N.C.Credit...Madeline Gray for The New York Times

Published July 10, 2023Updated July 11, 2023, 6:40 a.m. ET

If you want to hear about the day the guys aboard the fishing boat Sensation landed a giant marlin and danced to Tina Turner because they were sure they had won $3.5 million, only to find out they hadn’t, first you need to know about Ashley Bleau and the Big Rock Blue Marlin Tournament in Morehead City, N.C.


Bleau, 45, is a self-described “Down East redneck” for whom business attire is board shorts and bare feet. Like a lot of people on North Carolina’s Crystal Coast, he grew up hoping he would own a boat someday, and last year he bought a beaut: Sensation, a 52-foot custom fishing boat with a cabin for lounging and a downstairs bunk room. He has used the boat to build his charter company, Sensation Sport Fishing.


In June, he entered it in the Big Rock tournament, joining 270 other vessels that set out to sea over six days in hopes of winning millions in prize money and having their achievement engraved forever in the Big Rock fountain at the Morehead City docks.


Since 1957, the Big Rock tournament, run by a nonprofit charity, has attracted sport fishermen from all over, including Michael Jordan, who competes on his fishing yacht, Catch-23.



“If you grow up around here and care about fishing at all, Big Rock is your Super Bowl,” Bleau said.


Bleau’s captain was Greg McCoy, 56, who left his previous job partly because the boat he captained was owned by the woman he was divorcing. McCoy’s only dedicated crew member was Darrin Cox, a 21-year-old in a camo hat whom nobody calls Darrin. He goes by Scooter.

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The Big Rock Blue Marlin Tournament store. The tournament is a major civic event in Morehead City.Credit...Madeline Gray for The New York Times

Bleau found fishermen willing to pay for 24 shares in the boat at $3,013 per share, with different guys assigned to different days.


The shareholders on Sensation agreed that the people on board for any prize catches would divide 70 percent of the payout among themselves. Bleau, McCoy and Scooter would take 10 percent each.



The first boat to bring in a marlin weighing more than 500 pounds would win the Fabulous Fisherman prize, worth $739,500. The prize for catching the biggest marlin overall was $2,769,400. The potential haul, then, was $3.5 million if you won both prizes.


The Sensation planned to leave Morehead City at 5 each morning of the tournament and look for a place to drop its lines by the 9 a.m. starting time. Under the rules, the fishermen would have until 3 p.m. each day to hook a fish, and they could fight it as long as it took to reel it in. Boats had to radio in to tournament officials when they had a fish on the line. They also had to provide video of their battles with fish later to confirm the catch was legitimate and there was no cheating. Winners had to take polygraph tests.


Many of the boats heading out into the Atlantic had big, dedicated crews and fancy sonar technology that could find a fish in the water below and lock onto it and follow it around.


Bleau’s boat had none of those things. To find marlin, McCoy relied on instincts and knowledge honed over 20 years on the sea. Earlier this year, he and Scooter fought a 600-plus-pound bluefin tuna for 11 hours. They got it right up to the boat, then the line snapped and the fish was gone.
“Broke my heart,” Scooter said.

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Darrin Cox, known as Scooter, unloading fish from the Sensation. On the last day of the tournament, he had a hunch Sensation would catch a marlin.Credit...Madeline Gray for The New York Times

On the first day of the Big Rock, the swells were eight to 10 feet high, and four of the nine people aboard Sensation spent most of the morning vomiting. Jordan’s Catch-23 didn’t even go out.
Three boats managed to land blue marlins that day, though only one weighed more than the minimum 400 pounds. On Day 3, Sea Wolf brought in a 408.1-pounder and Predator a 459-pounder. On Day 5, two more big marlins came in, including one from the boat Sushi at 484.5 pounds.

Sensation had one day left — Saturday, June 17 — to catch a prizewinning fish.
As the boat headed out to sea that morning, Scooter, not normally one for bold statements, made a prophecy: “At 2:13 p.m., we’re going to hook a marlin, and it’s going to win.”
The morning passed quietly. McCoy searched for “rips,” locations where warm and cold water met. They can create lines of sea grass and trash where baitfish like to hide. That’s where fish would be, he thought.
Sensation dropped the lines and trolled. At the end of one particular line was a Black Bart Super Plunger with a blue and silver head and streaks of red and purple.
Scooter’s 2:13 p.m. came and went. Fish don’t wear watches.
But two minutes later, the line with the Black Bart exploded off the reel. “A hit like you wouldn’t believe,” McCoy said later. Line raced from the rod with a screaming whine. Something was on the line, and it was big.
Bleau got it all on video. Scooter brought the rod to the shareholder who was then taking his turn in the chair — Bailey Gore, who owns a basement waterproofing company in Boone. Bare-chested and wearing sunglasses, Gore braced himself in a low squat to let his legs and back do the work.
When the marlin jumped, they knew they had a good one. “If we can catch this fish,” McCoy recalled saying, “we’ll win the Big Rock.”

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The “Super Plunger” marlin plug that was used to hook the big fish.Credit...Madeline Gray for The New York Times

After more than an hour of battle, the fish made one final dive, going down to 1,000 feet, trying to get away. Then the line went heavy and stopped moving. McCoy, who has caught about 15 blue marlins in his life, said the marlin probably had a heart attack and died. (Daniel Pauly, a marine biologist at the University of British Columbia, confirmed in an interview that a fish can die from overexertion during a fight.) Their task now was to haul the fish up without breaking the line. Hour after hour they winched it up.



Once they boated it, Bleau said, they knew they had won. The fish was a blue-black monster, its mouth frozen open in surprise.


McCoy set off for home, going 24 knots to cover the 55 miles back to shore. He cranked up Tina Turner and the crew danced and drank and took pictures with the fish. Bleau called his daughter. Scooter imagined the boat he would buy with his $350,000 cut — probably a white 28-foot center-console Contender, “something cool and fast,” he said. McCoy told him he would introduce him to a financial planner so he could make the right investments.


They pulled into the docks in darkness around 11:15 p.m. Word had spread about their big catch, and people packing the waterfront restaurants and bars cheered them as they motored into Morehead City. A huge crowd packed Big Rock Landing.


The tournament’s weighmaster, Randy Gregory, who is a marine biologist, boarded the boat and inspected the fish. He quickly recognized a problem. The marlin had a bite on its tail, apparently from a shark, and was missing a chunk of flesh on its anal fin.


Under the rules, any fish that was mutilated during the battle would be disqualified. When a fish is hurt, the angler has an unfair advantage.
Ideally, “when you fight and land this fish, you have fought 100 percent of the fish,” the Big Rock president, Emery Ivey, said in a Facebook video after the tournament. The guys on Sensation had fought 100 percent of this marlin, minus a couple of chunks.



McCoy said he had noticed “blemishes” on the fish, but said he had seen much worse in his career. “It never went through my mind that it would be disqualified,” he said. “That might be me not reading the rules properly, but I’ve read them a hundred times.”


Sensation’s win was in doubt. But out of respect for the crew’s efforts, Ivey said, officials chose to announce the weight: 619.4 pounds. It was the first fish over 500 pounds, and the largest overall by 135 pounds. The crowd hooted in celebration, but tournament officials said they needed to deliberate further and sent everyone home.

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The Sensation crew with their 600-plus-pound marlin and their dreams still intact.Credit...Courtesy Greg McCoy

That night, they brought in additional biologists and experts to examine the fish. Their conclusion: It had indeed been bitten by a shark, or some other predator, during the time it was hooked on the line.


The next morning, they announced that Sensation’s catch was disqualified.
“Nobody was pulling for those guys harder than we were on the Big Rock board,” Ivey said in an interview. “You know, they’re a hometown boat.


Everybody knows who they are. But the rules are rules, and to keep up the integrity of the tournament, we have to enforce the rules as they’re written in our rule book.”


Bleau has officially protested the decision and retained legal counsel. Neither he nor Ivey would discuss any possible litigation. Bleau’s argument is that previous Big Rock marlins have come in with bites and still been counted as qualified results.


Some people point to the 2019 winner, a 914-pound marlin caught by the fishing boat Top Dog, as an example. But Ivey said that fish was mutilated only after the fight was over, when the fishermen were hauling it into the boat.


Bleau has plenty of support in Morehead City. His daughter made T-shirts identifying Sensation as the Big Rock People’s Champion and sold more than 1,000 of them.




It turns out that losing $3.5 million because of a poorly timed shark bite is the sort of thing that makes fishermen examine their real principles.
“I’ve never been about the money,” McCoy said. “I wanted my name on that Big Rock fountain. I have ever since I started fishing down here. And I thought I’d done it.”


The other day, Scooter was talking to a friend on another boat, saying he felt like he had won the tournament.


“But y’all didn’t win,” another guy on the boat said. He had been part of the crew on Sushi that caught the winning marlin.


Scooter shrugged and said, “We caught a bigger fish.”