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Old 04-29-2022, 06:44 PM  
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Old 09-10-2023, 05:06 PM   #3136
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Looked like he got open plenty to me from section 211 last week

Pat shoild throw him the ball more
I remember one route that stood out to me, some kind of pick play or defender just got lost, as sky was heading down the right sideline with a trailing defender, and Pat passed to the other side short. Don’t think he ever looked Skys way, could be a trust issue, but on that play he was wide open.
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Old 09-10-2023, 05:10 PM   #3137
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Old 09-10-2023, 05:29 PM   #3138
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Yeah I can agree with that. Perhaps dictates was the wrong word. But in my mind I always figured that Andy had a strong influence on the ranking of the position. I think he is involved enough that he is impacting the decision more so than some other positions.

It's also possible Veach might have gone in different directions a few times if we ran a different scheme. Perhaps the scheme and Reid have no influence but I feel like both probably do.
The scheme dictates player types. It’s Andy’s scheme. When Veach talks about being in lockstep with the coaching staff, it means he’s picking players that fit scheme. I guess you can twist that and say Reid isn’t dictating players but whatever.
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Old 09-10-2023, 05:45 PM   #3140
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The scheme dictates player types. It’s Andy’s scheme. When Veach talks about being in lockstep with the coaching staff, it means he’s picking players that fit scheme. I guess you can twist that and say Reid isn’t dictating players but whatever.
We've had guys from 5-9" to 6-5".

From 4.28 to 4.68.

Its not the scheme dictating player type, its player type dictating usage.
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But in my mind I always figured that Andy had a strong influence on the ranking of the position. I think he is involved enough that he is impacting the decision more so than some other positions.

It's also possible Veach might have gone in different directions a few times if we ran a different scheme. Perhaps the scheme and Reid have no influence but I feel like both probably do.
Andy always makes the final pick whether draft or FA. Veach scouts the present candidates whether college or FA players according to the needs seen in Andy's eyes and Veach presents them and Andy makes the picks PERIOD.
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Looked like he got open plenty to me from section 211 last week

Pat shoild throw him the ball more
Haven't been able to break down all of the All-22, but I've seen at least a halves worth of plays and Skyy Moore was beating coverage on several plays and Patrick looked at him, but never threw it his way. People talking shit on him clearly haven't seen his routes, because he looked really good.
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Haven't been able to break down all of the All-22, but I've seen at least a halves worth of plays and Skyy Moore was beating coverage on several plays and Patrick looked at him, but never threw it his way. People talking shit on him clearly haven't seen his routes, because he looked really good.
Some people watching the all 22 say he never got separation, some people say he was open but never got the ball.

WHICH IS IT, PEOPLE???
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Haven't been able to break down all of the All-22, but I've seen at least a halves worth of plays and Skyy Moore was beating coverage on several plays and Patrick looked at him, but never threw it his way. People talking shit on him clearly haven't seen his routes, because he looked really good.
I’m willing to bet it will figure itself over time. And if Moore is getting separation and running the right routes, Mahomes will find him and he’ll be successful.

I wouldn’t use any single game as a full report card. But the guy ran about 3x as many routes as someone like Toney and got a comparable amount of targets. It’s a bit of a colored flag.
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I’m willing to bet it will figure itself over time. And if Moore is getting separation and running the right routes, Mahomes will find him and he’ll be successful.

I wouldn’t use any single game as a full report card. But the guy ran about 3x as many routes as someone like Toney and got a comparable amount of targets. It’s a bit of a colored flag.
Unless he just literally can't catch, Reid and Mahomes will put him in a can't fail position. Hopefully sooner than later but at some point they will figure out how to adjust the offense to all these WRs regardless of how talented they actually are.
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I’m willing to bet it will figure itself over time. And if Moore is getting separation and running the right routes, Mahomes will find him and he’ll be successful.

I wouldn’t use any single game as a full report card. But the guy ran about 3x as many routes as someone like Toney and got a comparable amount of targets. It’s a bit of a colored flag.
The advanced stats tried to tell us Skyy Moore got separation, alot last year but Mahomes didn't throw to him. Why would Mahomes do that? I don't know the answer, but I'd like to. Surely there is a reason and Mahomes does not trust him. Seems like everytime Mahomes does try to throw to him bad things happen more than not.
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Some people watching the all 22 say he never got separation, some people say he was open but never got the ball.

WHICH IS IT, PEOPLE???

From JT’s QB school it looks like he got open about 8 times.
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The one that is egregiously so far is the one on 3rd down that he throws it to him but it sails and Skyy barely gets his hands on it. Moore was wide open with no one in his vicinity for 5 seconds at least.
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One the pass that Toney and some other receiver are crossing on 3rd down before we get a FG if Mahomes waits just a hair longer, then Moore is wide open for a 1st down.
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