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Old 04-17-2025, 02:31 PM  
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Call Your Shot: Who will be the Chiefs first pick in the 2025 NFL draft?

I'm going with Josh Simmons, OT, Ohio St.

I think the Chiefs would prefer a guy like Walter Nolen or Derrick Harmon falls into their lap, but I don't think that happens next Thursday night, or at least I'm not going to get me hopes up.

A lot of people will not like this pick, due to the injury risk, but the Chiefs take a swing at a T that otherwise would never be in that late 1st round range.

Side note: I could also see Josh Conerly being the pick and could've just as easily chose him. Upside isn't as high, but he's probably safer given his health.
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Old 04-22-2025, 05:08 PM   #301
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That's just silly. Burden would be an incredibly worthwhile investment, especially considering Kelce is almost assuredly retiring after the end of the year, Brown is a brokedick, and Rice is facing an undetermined suspension and coming off a serious knee injury.
By his logic, Seattle never should have drafted JSN.

Jesus, the Packers have thrown the kitchen sink at the position.

The Texans brought in Diggs when they already had Collins and Dell.

Cincinnati drafted Burton despite having Chase and Higgins.

Niners drafted Pearsall while having Deebo and Aiyuk.

Don't have time to go through the entire league, but you don't pass up a playmaker just because you think you have the position covered.

Hint: Plus we only have two WR under contract in 2026 and beyond.
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Old 04-22-2025, 05:29 PM   #302
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By his logic, Seattle never should have drafted JSN.

Jesus, the Packers have thrown the kitchen sink at the position.

The Texans brought in Diggs when they already had Collins and Dell.

Cincinnati drafted Burton despite having Chase and Higgins.

Niners drafted Pearsall while having Deebo and Aiyuk.

Don't have time to go through the entire league, but you don't pass up a playmaker just because you think you have the position covered.

Hint: Plus we only have two WR under contract in 2026 and beyond.
You act like we'd be passing up a 1st round receiver for a bag of dicks. Smh. You realize there are other good players to draft at other positions, yes? You also realize there will be good receivers in the 2026 draft, no? Burden is a great freaking player. Ill be thrilled if they draft him. All I said was I think it would benefit THIS year's roster if we used our first rounder elsewhere. Rice, Worthy, Hollywood, Kelce is a top 5 WR1, WR2, WR3, TE combo in the league. Our running back room is downright horse shit! God help our intereior defensive line if CJ95 gets seriously injured as well.

Hint: We have freaking ZERO running backs under contract for 2026! Zero. Also, the teams you mentioned, Packers, Bengals, Texans, Niners how did their seasons go last year? Did the Packers have a dang good receiver bitching and moaning and disturbing the locker room because he wasnt getting the ball because they had too many receivers? WTF did Burton do for Bengals even WITH Higgins hurt much of the year? 4 freaking catches all year and didnt travel with the team late in year due to coach decision? That pick would have been better spent on defense! By all means though keep using valuable draft picks on receivers who cant get on the field. Is it entirely possible Burden's ego is a little hurt if he is stuck behind Rice/Worthy/Hollywood?

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I can't shake this scene from my head, for Thursday night:

1) The Chiefs trade up into the low-middle 20s
2) All the draft analysts/talking heads/Twitter explode talking about and speculating about them coming to get a T, probably Josh Simmons. Some will spew about Conerly, or Eirsery.
3) The pick will then be announced as either a DT or a WR
4) Everyone but Chiefsplanet denizens will be FLOORED
Not this guy! I would welcome it!
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By his logic, Seattle never should have drafted JSN.

Jesus, the Packers have thrown the kitchen sink at the position.

The Texans brought in Diggs when they already had Collins and Dell.

Cincinnati drafted Burton despite having Chase and Higgins.

Niners drafted Pearsall while having Deebo and Aiyuk.

Don't have time to go through the entire league, but you don't pass up a playmaker just because you think you have the position covered.

Hint: Plus we only have two WR under contract in 2026 and beyond.

How many super bowls have ANY of those teams won while doing this?

HOW MANY?

Oh, that's right.

Because when you concentrate ALL of your draft capital in one position group, it means you're scraping by elsewhere.

And so while these teams look great in these groups, they're not winning Super Bowls.

Meanwhile, here in KC, I guess we'll just keep on...winning.
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Old 04-22-2025, 06:28 PM   #306
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You act like we'd be passing up a 1st round receiver for a bag of dicks. Smh. You realize there are other good players to draft at other positions, yes? You also realize there will be good receivers in the 2026 draft, no? Burden is a great freaking player. Ill be thrilled if they draft him. All I said was I think it would benefit THIS year's roster if we used our first rounder elsewhere. Rice, Worthy, Hollywood, Kelce is a top 5 WR1, WR2, WR3, TE combo in the league. Our running back room is downright horse shit! God help our intereior defensive line if CJ95 gets seriously injured as well.

Hint: We have freaking ZERO running backs under contract for 2026! Zero. Also, the teams you mentioned, Packers, Bengals, Texans, Niners how did their seasons go last year? Did the Packers have a dang good receiver bitching and moaning and disturbing the locker room because he wasnt getting the ball because they had too many receivers? WTF did Burton do for Bengals even WITH Higgins hurt much of the year? 4 freaking catches all year and didnt travel with the team late in year due to coach decision? That pick would have been better spent on defense! By all means though keep using valuable draft picks on receivers who cant get on the field. Is it entirely possible Burden's ego is a little hurt if he is stuck behind Rice/Worthy/Hollywood?
So, with a draft loaded with RB's, who would you draft @ RB in the first? Just asking because most of the "better" RB's have already been taken even if we traded up to the mid 20's? What RB would you draft in the first that you see worthy in our current draft position?
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So, with a draft loaded with RB's, who would you draft @ RB in the first? Just asking because most of the "better" RB's have already been taken even if we traded up to the mid 20's? What RB would you draft in the first that you see worthy in our current draft position?
I don't know 'bout you, but I ain't takin' no runnin' back in round one.

There will be good backs all the way through round 5 this draft.

I think a Damien Martinez right abour #133 looks mighty fine. Mighty fine indeed.
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So, with a draft loaded with RB's, who would you draft @ RB in the first? Just asking because most of the "better" RB's have already been taken even if we traded up to the mid 20's? What RB would you draft in the first that you see worthy in our current draft position?
You’re right the draft is loaded with RB’s, which is exactly why we should wait to take one.

I’m hoping for the best DL available - with a bias towards DT - as the guys who can have an impact with the pass rush are mostly R1 guys.

I’m not sure Burden wouldn’t even be a R1 guy last year. Probably would land at WR8-10.
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How many super bowls have ANY of those teams won while doing this?

HOW MANY?

Oh, that's right.

Because when you concentrate ALL of your draft capital in one position group, it means you're scraping by elsewhere.

And so while these teams look great in these groups, they're not winning Super Bowls.

Meanwhile, here in KC, I guess we'll just keep on...winning.
I'd argue they aren't winning Super Bowls because they aren't drafting well at other positions. Unlike our GM.

This draft is ridiculously deep at RB and the defensive side of the ball.

You're getting one shot at a guy like Egbuka or Burden - end of R1.

If Nolen and Harmon are gone, they are very likely the BPA with plenty of opportunity to address the D with guys like Sanders, Tuimoloau, Norman-Lott, Burch, Stewart, Farmer, Walker, Kennard, Broughton, etc.

@dj'sleftnut is dead on this one.
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I don't know 'bout you, but I ain't takin' no runnin' back in round one.

There will be good backs all the way through round 5 this draft.

I think a Damien Martinez right abour #133 looks mighty fine. Mighty fine indeed.
By all means I do not want a RB w/ 1st pick. A RB can be picked up in later rounds was my point.
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That's just silly. Burden would be an incredibly worthwhile investment, especially considering Kelce is almost assuredly retiring after the end of the year, Brown is a brokedick, and Rice is facing an undetermined suspension and coming off a serious knee injury.
Shit.

I agree with you.

I may have to reconsider my stance on Burden.
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I don't know 'bout you, but I ain't takin' no runnin' back in round one.

There will be good backs all the way through round 5 this draft.

I think a Damien Martinez right abour #133 looks mighty fine. Mighty fine indeed.
Crow has warmed me to Etienne.

I'd have probably liked him sooner if his last name was Taylor or something. Travis just turned into a bum so damn fast.
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So let's look at this scenario...

SPAGS - Walter Nolen

REID - Josh Simmons

MAHOMES - Luther Burden

How would Veach react? Who has the deciding vote? How do you guys think this would play out? Have you even thought from this angle?
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You’re right the draft is loaded with RB’s, which is exactly why we should wait to take one.

I’m hoping for the best DL available - with a bias towards DT - as the guys who can have an impact with the pass rush are mostly R1 guys.

I’m not sure Burden wouldn’t even be a R1 guy last year. Probably would land at WR8-10.

I mean, I don’t know why you would be sure of that.

Ricky Pearsall and Xavier Legette were first round picks.

If you think both those teams wouldn’t have jumped to get him instead of them, you’re off. Way, way off.

Burden was the most productive player in the league those dudes played in, and also the best pro prospect.

You could make a case for him being preferred to Ofunze and Worthy, too.

He entered his junior season viewed as a top 10 player and right there with McMillan for WR1 for a reason.
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