Lamar Jackson wasn't, isn't, and never will be better than Patrick Mahomes

[Wallcrawler]

This "Lamar Jackson is in the same league as Mahomes" nonsense on every football related show I see needs to stop.

Lamar Jackson, on the biggest stage, has now shit down his leg in both opportunities. Lamar is a player who has to have everything around him working perfectly to have success. Put him down 2 scores and ask him to carry the team, he cannot answer the bell.

There's a big difference between a running quarterback, and a quarterback who can run. Lamar Jackson and The Ravens ran 88 plays and put up 12 points.

Jackson attempted 59 passes, only threw one touchdown, but also threw two picks and lost a fumble. 12 points on 59 pass attempts should tell you all you need to know about Lamar as a QB when the lights are the brightest.

Nobody would bat an eye if before the game, soneone told us Pat would put the ball up 59 times. Matter of fact, id be pretty excited to see how many points and yards he would put up in that span of plays.

When things got bad for both QBs, you saw the odds on favorite to win the MVP this year get visible frustrated, press, and ultimately fold. He was nowhere to be seen trying to work out what was happening, rallying his team, he simply pouted on the sideline as his team fell further behind.

The reigning MVP had literally no quit. Its one thing to say after the fact, that we had faith all along, its quite another for that to be true.

Down 24, think about that for a moment. 24. Mahomes is captured, in that moment on the sideline saying we have everything we want. Everyones already counted us the **** out, so go do something special.

Then, to walk the walk after talking the talk, leading the team to 7 straight touchdowns and 8 scoring drives, throwing 5 touchdown passes, and displaying a fiery emotion that if you dont feel anything when you see this kid going nuts after a huge play, call the coroner, because youre already dead.

The two qbs could not be further apart. Jackson cannot hold Mahomes jock when it comes to putting the team on his back.

Lamar should consider signing with KC as a running back. Its the only way barring injury to Mahomes, that hes ever getting a ring.

Mahomes is the MVP. Its not even close. Lamar is a running back executing the halfback pass play about 20-25 times a game.

Jacksons first two years have ended with dud playoff performances.

Mahomes first two years as a starter sees his team hosting back to back AFC title games for a frachise that in its entire history never hosted a single one before he arrived.

[DJJasonp]

Originally Posted by DrRyan

https://youtu.be/hX6uaNbU0aU

Can't get the embedded link on the phone. Enjoy nevertheless.

Thanks for this.

Booger McFarland broke down the event quite nicely!

[MGRS13]

I like Lamar I really do. Liked him in college. Like watching him now. He’s fun makes the game fun. That said he’s not even in the same universe as mahomes. It’s unfair to compare him to what looks like a once in a generation player in mahomes. That same d it’s gonna be tougher for Lamar this year. More teams will play him like Tennessee did. It’s f you watch anything from last year teams playing Baltimore would heavy cover the outside as the f The Wr were capable of anything. It’s like every coach playing them was sure that was the game Lamar was going to become a prototypical nfl QB. Tennessee plugged the middle dedicated heavy coverage to the tight ends and loaded up against the run. Baltimore is going to see a lot of that early. If Lamar wants to continue to progress he’s gonna have to out Alex smith his own brain. Learn to read coverage quicker and throw more outside. Should be fun to watch

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by DJJasonp

Thanks for this.

Booger McFarland broke down the event quite nicely!

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[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by MGRS13

I like Lamar I really do. Liked him in college. Like watching him now. He’s fun makes the game fun. That said he’s not even in the same universe as mahomes. It’s unfair to compare him to what looks like a once in a generation player in mahomes. That same d it’s gonna be tougher for Lamar this year. More teams will play him like Tennessee did. It’s f you watch anything from last year teams playing Baltimore would heavy cover the outside as the f The Wr were capable of anything. It’s like every coach playing them was sure that was the game Lamar was going to become a prototypical nfl QB. Tennessee plugged the middle dedicated heavy coverage to the tight ends and loaded up against the run. Baltimore is going to see a lot of that early. If Lamar wants to continue to progress he’s gonna have to out Alex smith his own brain. Learn to read coverage quicker and throw more outside. Should be fun to watch

Yeah, defenses last year were built to stop the pass. Mahomes broke the league 2 years ago. How many years have defenses been planning around the spread with fast defenders with range. So guys like Goff and Rodgers regressed while running backs like Derrick Henry soared.

Defenses won't let teams keep running down their throats. Of course the league wants to stop mahomes but id bet their top offseason priority is stopping run offenses like SF and Baltimore. Good for mahomes, bad for lamar.

[Wallcrawler]

Lamar Jackson 0-3 against Mahomes.

0-5 in starts where the Ravens go down 10+

1 win where Lamar has 30+ pass attempts.

Great athlete, great runner, TRASH quarterback when it matters.

[Chiefspants]

I will completely revise my previous takes in the thread.

The Chiefs rolled out the Titans formula on defense and Lamar was absolutely toasted JUST like he was last season. Until Lamar figures out how to win/come back down 2 possessions, they have a very real ceiling.

The Ravens also completely undervalued receivers in the Lamar era -- which doesn't matter in their offense... until they do. You're not piecing together a comeback with tight ends and the WR crew that they have. Even in their scoring drives today, you can't require a 7 minute drive to score when down by multiple scores in the 2nd half.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Chiefspants

I will completely revise my previous takes in the thread.

The Chiefs rolled out the Titans formula on defense and Lamar was absolutely toasted JUST like he was last season. Until Lamar figures out how to win/come back down 2 possessions, they have a very real ceiling.

The Ravens also completely undervalued receivers in the Lamar era -- which doesn't matter in their offense... until they do. You're not piecing together a comeback with tight ends and the WR crew that they have. Even in their scoring drives today, you can't require a 7 minute drive to score when down by multiple scores in the 2nd half.

Eh they took one in the 1st last year.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

I would say the primary difference between the two is that Baltimore's QB can't actually throw a football.

This remains the case. If you force him into a situation where he actually has to throw accurately down the field he can’t do it.

[POND_OF_RED]

No, let them keeping ranking him #4 in the league.....we love it https://t.co/Q9am7rt4mS

— Brittany Matthews (@brittanylynne8) September 29, 2020

*Q’ing myself in multiple threads because I’m drunk and this needs to be shared. Patrick is hungry!

[Chiefspants]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Eh they took one in the 1st last year.

I see that, but I don't know how they didn't look at their crew last year and add a WR in the offseason. Emmanuel Sanders completely transformed the Niners O last year and a player like that adds a dimension to the Ravens offense when playing behind that they just do not have right now. The Chiefs looked more than happy to let them take 13 minutes off the clock in their scoring drives in the 2nd half.

[smithandrew051]

This is really who Jackson is. He consistently can’t pass the ball effectively against quality opponents, bbbuuuutttttt...

The Ravens have to pay him, right? You can’t trade an MVP or let him walk in FA?

They’re going to regret paying him.

[Chiefspants]

Lamar Jackson admits the Chiefs are the Ravens "kryptonite." Said they pretty much had same defensive game plan as the Titans did in the playoff game.

— Jeff Zrebiec (@jeffzrebiec) September 29, 2020

Lamar even admits it. The Chiefs just rolled out the Titans plan on D and dared the Ravens to beat it. It reminds me of how the teams copied the Patriots 2019 AFCCG against us last season and were rolling us... until Pennel (and the team gelled to Spags scheme) I just don't think they added a Pennel like difference maker to their offense that can make an impact like that.

[PHOG]

Lamar Jackson isn't a pimple on Patrick Mahomes ass.

[Eleazar]

Jackson's game consists almost entirely of hype

[RockChalk]

He will be a backup by the 2026 NFL Season - Week 1, if not sooner