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I propose that from here on out, we refer to Skyy Moore as simply 2Y

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Old 05-01-2022, 12:44 AM   #304
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WR's I had ranked higher and wanted more than Skyy Moore going into the draft:


Jameson Williams
Drake Londan
Garrett Wilson
Christian Watson
George Pickens
Chris Olave
Jahan Dotson
Treylong Burks
John Metchie
Alec Pierce

WR's the Chiefs had a chance at drafting at 30 (if they drafted Jermaine Johnson at 21 they could have and should have gone WR at 30)

Watson
Robinson (over-drafted IMO)
Metchie
Thorton (over-drafted IMO)

If they went WR at 50 they could have had
Pickens
Pierce


Yes, the Chiefs chose Moore over Pickens so we will see. That being said, I trust Pittsburgh's draft and development of the WR position over the Chiefs. They seem to always find studs. The Chiefs lucked into Hill and haven't drafted well at all at the position otherwise.

Moore seems to be a slot WR that can play outside if needed and I have big-time reservations about the level of competition he played. Because of this and the lack of receivers on the roster next year, WR #1 and maybe #2 will be priority #1 next off-season.
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Old 05-01-2022, 01:29 AM   #305
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WR's I had ranked higher and wanted more than Skyy Moore going into the draft:


Jameson Williams
Drake Londan
Garrett Wilson
Christian Watson
George Pickens
Chris Olave
Jahan Dotson
Treylong Burks
John Metchie
Alec Pierce

WR's the Chiefs had a chance at drafting at 30 (if they drafted Jermaine Johnson at 21 they could have and should have gone WR at 30)

Watson
Robinson (over-drafted IMO)
Metchie
Thorton (over-drafted IMO)

If they went WR at 50 they could have had
Pickens
Pierce


Yes, the Chiefs chose Moore over Pickens so we will see. That being said, I trust Pittsburgh's draft and development of the WR position over the Chiefs. They seem to always find studs. The Chiefs lucked into Hill and haven't drafted well at all at the position otherwise.

Moore seems to be a slot WR that can play outside if needed and I have big-time reservations about the level of competition he played. Because of this and the lack of receivers on the roster next year, WR #1 and maybe #2 will be priority #1 next off-season.
I'm very confident Moore ends up a better player than Pierce. I agree we'll need further investment in the position though. The group has decent depth but is imo in dire need of a top WR.
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Old 05-01-2022, 01:45 AM   #306
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Yes, the Chiefs chose Moore over Pickens so we will see. That being said, I trust Pittsburgh's draft and development of the WR position over the Chiefs. They seem to always find studs. The Chiefs lucked into Hill and haven't drafted well at all at the position otherwise.

Moore seems to be a slot WR that can play outside if needed and I have big-time reservations about the level of competition he played. Because of this and the lack of receivers on the roster next year, WR #1 and maybe #2 will be priority #1 next off-season.
Pittsburgh themselves have probably had the most success with MAC receivers. Antonio Brown and now Diontae Johnson. Corey Davis is out there, Kenny Golladay. We'll see if Moore can add his name to that list.

Toughest thing about this year is Reid's offense is usually not easy to learn. I wouldn't expect the guy to come in and light it up right away.
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Old 05-01-2022, 02:21 AM   #307
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WR's I had ranked higher and wanted more than Skyy Moore going into the draft:


Jameson Williams
Drake Londan
Garrett Wilson
Christian Watson
George Pickens
Chris Olave
Jahan Dotson
Treylong Burks
John Metchie
Alec Pierce

WR's the Chiefs had a chance at drafting at 30 (if they drafted Jermaine Johnson at 21 they could have and should have gone WR at 30)

Watson
Robinson (over-drafted IMO)
Metchie
Thorton (over-drafted IMO)

If they went WR at 50 they could have had
Pickens
Pierce


Yes, the Chiefs chose Moore over Pickens so we will see. That being said, I trust Pittsburgh's draft and development of the WR position over the Chiefs. They seem to always find studs. The Chiefs lucked into Hill and haven't drafted well at all at the position otherwise.

Moore seems to be a slot WR that can play outside if needed and I have big-time reservations about the level of competition he played. Because of this and the lack of receivers on the roster next year, WR #1 and maybe #2 will be priority #1 next off-season.
Well, the guys that went before pick 20 were never on the board when KC selected. So that makes that part easy. Without trading up in the second several of those were already gone as well.

For me it was George Pickens, that was my guy. With that said we already have MVS and we know how defenses like to play us. A notable knock on Pickens is he doesn't create the separation you'd like to see on many of his routes. He doesn't break many tackles either. However, he has great hands and is a contested catch machine. Fine player, I really liked him.

Different story with Moore. Under sized but his hands are massive, an absurd 10.25". He's a polished route runner and runs a full route tree. On top of that he broke a ton of tackles last year with 26. He beats press man with ease with his shiftiness and acceleration. He's also faster than Pickens by quite a bit, 4.41 vs 4.47. Factor in durability concerns with Pickens vs a clean bill of health with Moore and I don't think it's all that close.

I kinda wrote off Skyy early as a slot receiver vs some of the long stallions in this class like Pickens, Williams, and Watson. But the hype on Skyy is real. Pair him up with Andy and Patrick then watch him be the best WR in this class. It's all ahead of us.

Tyreek will be jelly.
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Old 05-01-2022, 03:18 AM   #308
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Well, the guys that went before pick 20 were never on the board when KC selected. So that makes that part easy. Without trading up in the second several of those were already gone as well.

For me it was George Pickens, that was my guy. With that said we already have MVS and we know how defenses like to play us. A notable knock on Pickens is he doesn't create the separation you'd like to see on many of his routes. He doesn't break many tackles either. However, he has great hands and is a contested catch machine. Fine player, I really liked him.

Different story with Moore. Under sized but his hands are massive, an absurd 10.25". He's a polished route runner and runs a full route tree. On top of that he broke a ton of tackles last year with 26. He beats press man with ease with his shiftiness and acceleration. He's also faster than Pickens by quite a bit, 4.41 vs 4.47. Factor in durability concerns with Pickens vs a clean bill of health with Moore and I don't think it's all that close.

I kinda wrote off Skyy early as a slot receiver vs some of the long stallions in this class like Pickens, Williams, and Watson. But the hype on Skyy is real. Pair him up with Andy and Patrick then watch him be the best WR in this class. It's all ahead of us.

Tyreek will be jelly.
I only pointed the list out to show how many WR's I wanted above before Moore. I was shocked Olave, Dotson, Burks went as high as they did. I also didn't think London AND Wilson would go top 10.

I figured Watson would go late 1st/early 2nd but didn't think Robinson/Mechie/Thorton would go before Pickens and Pierce. I did think Moore would be a middle to late 2nd rounder though and a better fit on a team with strong outside WRs.

One of the reasons I hated the McDuffie pick over Jermaine Johnson at 21 was that it forced the Chiefs to go DE at 30. This closed doors to pick a WR at 30, which would have probably been Watson. Then again, they may have picked Moore anyway and I'd be more pissed.

Maybe I'm still betrayed by the hype of Hardman and CEH being paired with Reid and Mahomes. I'm not sure how his physical attributes by beating press and breaking tackles translates from the MAC to the NFL. I hope that's the case. Hell, maybe he could surprise and be a decent Z receiver instead of just a slot.




If I'm the Chiefs I call OBJ and work out a deal. He won't be ready until November (?) but they don't have an X WR on the roster. JuJu Smith Schuster is a Slot or Z receiver, MVS is a Z receiver, Hardman is a Z type WR and Moore is a slot WR.

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Hear me out here. Maybe, just maybe, they didn't want another ****ing receiver with baggage.

The last receiver that had baggage is sort of how they ended up with Hardman to begin with.

Tomlin simply doesn't give a **** if his team lacks character.
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I only pointed the list out to show how many WR's I wanted above before Moore. I was shocked Olave, Dotson, Burks went as high as they did. I also didn't think London AND Wilson would go top 10.

I figured Watson would go late 1st/early 2nd but didn't think Robinson/Mechie/Thorton would go before Pickens and Pierce. I did think Moore would be a middle to late 2nd rounder though and a better fit on a team with strong outside WRs.

One of the reasons I hated the McDuffie pick over Jermaine Johnson at 21 was that it forced the Chiefs to go DE at 30. This closed doors to pick a WR at 30, which would have probably been Watson. Then again, they may have picked Moore anyway and I'd be more pissed.

Maybe I'm still betrayed by the hype of Hardman and CEH being paired with Reid and Mahomes. I'm not sure how his physical attributes by beating press and breaking tackles translates from the MAC to the NFL. I hope that's the case. Hell, maybe he could surprise and be a decent Z receiver instead of just a slot.




If I'm the Chiefs I call OBJ and work out a deal. He won't be ready until November (?) but they don't have an X WR on the roster. JuJu Smith Schuster is a Slot or Z receiver, MVS is a Z receiver, Hardman is a Z type WR and Moore is a slot WR.
First of all-just stop with the OBJ stuff. We already have a mercenary rental WR here for 2022. We also aren't going to pay a premium, which OBJ would want. ALSO, dude is hurt...like...AGAIN. If you've been paying attention,, this is his story for like the last several years. Pass. No way.

Second-how does Moore translate from a MAC school? Look at the 10 yard split. It's ELITE. He goes from standing still to flying in a hurry. Don't look at the 40 time (which is still fast, just not Tyreek fast) look at the splits. It's his acceleration.

Now, go look at some video on the kid. Watch his routes. Look how he sinks his hips, look how smoothly he cuts, changes direction, and then accelerates. Watch him sell one route and then break the other way. Nice. And then watch how he catches every****ingthing. Also nice.

And finally, look what he does with the ball in his hands. He's so quick, he's hard for the defenders to get their mitts on him. Look at those broken tackles!

This kid isn't just a slot receiver.

I too didn't get the Skyy Moore hype until I watched him. The obvious measurables in size and 40 time didn't wow. But look at the splits and a different pictures emerges of the athlete. And then you can see that the video will absolutely translate.
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Seems like a really good player. Maybe not your “top 3 in the league” physical measurements but whatever. Get open and catch the ball.
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I think Skyy can play X reciever, but not full time. He ran a stop and go on a guy one game from the X and had about two or three steps on the guy after he did it. I don't think there is a spot he can't play. Simply put, his game may best suited on the inside. Though he played a ton on the outside in college. When he's in space you're in trouble.

The only thing about his game I had a problem with is his top gear isn't next level. He is fast but he doesn't just pull away from guys. But if he was faster he had went off the board before pick 20 like several others did.
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Look at all of the WR’s drafted. Most of them went to teams with shit QB’s.

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