****Official Mizzou Football 2023-2024 Thread****

[duncan_idaho]

Year 4 of the Drinkwitz era, let's discuss.

Schedule

• Aug. 31 - South Dakoka - W
• Sept 9 - Middle Tennessee - W
• Sept 16 - kansas State - W
• Sept 23 - Memphis
• Sept 30 - @Vanderbilt
• Oct 7 - LSU
• Oct 14 - @Kentucky
• Oct 21 - South Carolina
• Nov 4 - @Georgia
• Nov 11 - Tennessee
• Nov 18 - Florida
• Nov 24 - @Arkansas

Recruiting Class
Rivals

[Jerm]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Dafuq?

We just went into game one of the season with Cook and a 5-star redshirt freshman in a quarterback competition. And behind him is another 4-star dual threat from this year's class. And in that mix is ANOTHER 5-star transfer who was top 10 nationally at the position just 2 years ago.

I swear to god, some of y'all just continue to make the arguments you WANT to make, actual evidence be damned.

Maybe - just maybe - Cook's not the piece of grabasstic shit you fellas keep insisting he is. Maybe every damn recruit that walks into Columbia doesn't miraculously start dominating the best football conference in the country as a Sophomore.

****ing dipshit worthless pile of ass Eli Drankmess didn't get Caleb Williams - we should fire him.

Lord that's just idiotic. You honestly said "there's nobody pushing Cook" when the only thing that kept that from being an open competition last night was that Cook ran the offense so well in the first half that Drink took the air out of the ball in the second half.

Absolutely ridiculous.

Throw all the stars and accolades you want at me, it don’t mean jack shit if they can’t get on the field…

Who is pushing him? Horn? Garcia? Neither of them are…they had all Spring and Fall Camp to get the job and couldn’t do it….

And again, I didn’t call Cook horrible…I don’t think he’s terrible but I don’t think he’s anything better than average.

[Woogieman]

Let's do this...I will recant "not close to a Power 5 QB" if you recant "there's not a dimes worth of difference between Cook and Stetson Bennett"! 90% of being a good P5 (or any college) QB is reading the D, making quick decisions, and accurately delivering the pass. There is a trunk of gold coins difference between the two there. I don't like to crap on college players, especially at such a difficult position, but which SEC teams do we have a QB advantage over?

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

He is 'close'. He might, if healthy, be a firmly average P5 quarterback.

I think having Mahomes has broken our brains as to what an average college quarterback is. Or even a GOOD college quarterback.

College QBs aren't guys that are standing tall in the pocket and slinging 40 yard missiles over the middle of the field. The overwhelming majority of them are very similar to Cook. Mobile, smart, tolerable arm strength, passing flirtations with being accurate.

Again, there's not a dime's worth of difference between Brady Cook and Stetson Bennett.

Is Cook a good Power 5 quarterback? No, probably not. Though we'll see if the shoulder was truly impacting him - again, having torn my labrum in the past, I just think this whole 'he was playing hurt' thing is overblown. If his labrum was actually torn he couldn't have done even as little as he did - you cannot throw with that level of instability.

But "He's not even close to a Power 5 quarterback" is ridiculous. There are 75 friggen Power 5 teams. There are maybe 15 of those that have OBVIOUSLY better options than Cook. Probably 15 of them that have obviously WORSE options than Cook. Then there's the big-ass pile of largely interchangeable guys that play the game almost identically to Cook.

This is James Franklin 2.0. People so badly wanted Matty Mauk under center that they just roasted Franklin every chance they got. When all Franklin ever did was be a pretty ordinary college starter - he did college quarterback stuff. And hell, they ended up 5th in the nation with him and would've gone to the national championship game with any sort of defense at all.

This team's not that team, but its very demonstrative of what a good team can do around a smart, reliable quarterback. Yes, it's game manager shit but unless/until Horn proves it - until he TAKES the job - it's silly to just sit here and act like we're trotting Jim Dougherty out there.

I wish it was James Franklin 2.0.

Cook can't hold his (nutjob) jock.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Woogieman

Let's do this...I will recant "not close to a Power 5 QB" if you recant "there's not a dimes worth of difference between Cook and Stetson Bennett"! 90% of being a good P5 (or any college) QB is reading the D, making quick decisions, and accurately delivering the pass. There is a trunk of gold coins difference between the two there. I don't like to crap on college players, especially at such a difficult position, but which SEC teams do we have a QB advantage over?

Bennett made as many poor decisions as any QB I saw last season. He was bailed out by superior targets and time to do his taxes before he threw.

As for the rest of the SEC - that's my point: I don't necessarily see any teams we have a clear advantage over. But I see very few that have a clear advantage over Mizzou.

I mean we're really gonna keep pumping off Spencer Rattler? How long are we going to act like Graham Mertz is anything worth worrying about? I mean sure, Jayden Daniels and KJ Jefferson seem like the head of the class. But the rest have almost as many questions as answers. And many of those guys will have bad years this year - it's just how it works.

There's so much 'grass is greener' stuff here. You guys are judging everyone else's Quarterbacks on what they COULD be and holding Mizzou to the standard of their quarterbacks worst days. Mertz has had 5 YEARS in college football and has never had a season even as good as the season Cook had last year. And I think last season was Cook's floor.

You're simply not giving Cook any credit at all for being a relatively ordinary, high floor, low ceiling college quarterback. While you're presuming all these other guys are going to hit their ceilings - INCLUDING our own internal alternatives.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

I wish it was James Franklin 2.0.

Cook can't hold his (nutjob) jock.

And now Dubya is a 'Good Republican' When he used to be Hitler.

Time heals most wounds.

There were very few people anyone was favorably comparing Franklin to in real time.

[Woogieman]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

I wish it was James Franklin 2.0.

Cook can't hold his (nutjob) jock.

I honestly believe that with "average P5 QB play" in 2022, Mizzou wins 3 of 4, or even 4 of the Kentucky, Florida, Auburn, Georgia games...maybe GA shows up more ready to play with "James Franklin" at QB. Mizzou was in position to have an amazing year with a QB that could accurately throw down field. If it was his shoulder that caused that, then I will be proven wrong and will eat crow wearing a Burger King crown, but based on last night's play (aside from the Mekhi Miller TD throw) against a below avg FBS defense, I see the same level of play as last year, which will waste a darn good WR corps.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

And now Dubya is a 'Good Republican' When he used to be Hitler.

Time heals most wounds.

There were very few people anyone was favorably comparing Franklin to in real time.

Maybe for some. That was never me. I was always a fan of what Franklin brought to the table.

I want Cook to be better, but I just don't see it. His lack of arm strength is just such a limiting factor for him.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

I was no great fan of Franklin, but he was a hell of a lot better than Mauk, and I said so at the time. Cook is just Mauk with worse wheels, less coke, and the same FCS arm.

[Woogieman]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Bennett made as many poor decisions as any QB I saw last season. He was bailed out by superior targets and time to do his taxes before he threw.

As for the rest of the SEC - that's my point: I don't necessarily see any teams we have a clear advantage over. But I see very few that have a clear advantage over Mizzou.

I mean we're really gonna keep pumping off Spencer Rattler? How long are we going to act like Graham Mertz is anything worth worrying about? I mean sure, Jayden Daniels and KJ Jefferson seem like the head of the class. But the rest have almost as many questions as answers. And many of those guys will have bad years this year - it's just how it works.

There's so much 'grass is greener' stuff here. You guys are judging everyone else's Quarterbacks on what they COULD be and holding Mizzou to the standard of their quarterbacks worst days. Mertz has had 5 YEARS in college football and has never had a season even as good as the season Cook had last year. And I think last season was Cook's floor.

You're simply not giving Cook any credit at all for being a relatively ordinary, high floor, low ceiling college quarterback. While you're presuming all these other guys are going to hit their ceilings - INCLUDING our own internal alternatives.

Lots of turnover this year, and it remains to be seen how they perform, but the bottom line is this: "relatively ordinary" QB in the SEC gives you exactly what we got last year- 6 or 7 wins, a minor bowl, and several disappointing losses to "superior" programs that we could have/should be climbing over (Fla, Kentucky, Auburn) including another moribund bowl game flop. I think those of us who are down on ED's QB outcome believe that, in the era of the portal and quick-fixes, ED, for whatever reason, has failed to procure an above-average solution to the most critical position on the field, which has in turn yielded a very average result. The offensive play speaks for itself, and the eyeball test is critically judged by those of us who have seen far better play.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Given many of the absolutely boneheaded interceptions he threw last year, are we sure Cook is really a high floor guy, or is that just a common label we slap on QBs we know aren't good enough?

['Hamas' Jenkins]

"Everything that I ever wanted to know about Brady Cook he's already told me.. he's got a girlfriend or otherwise I'd be trying to get him hooked up w/ once my daughters turn 18"

This dude will never move off Cook.

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

"Everything that I ever wanted to know about Brady Cook he's already told me.. he's got a girlfriend or otherwise I'd be trying to get him hooked up w/ once my daughters turn 18"

This dude will never move off Cook.

Did Eli say this?

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by dlphg9

Did Eli say this?

To be fair, he shouldn't have expected it to get out, as it was uttered in the privacy of a post-game press conference.

[siberian khatru]

Originally Posted by dlphg9

Did Eli say this?

1:10 mark

Really passionate speech from #Mizzou football coach Eli Drinkwitz on Brady Cook's leadership and character in the midst of this QB competition: "That guy's got so much character, so much grit, so much determination..."

Also added: "Write what you want, say what you want. It… pic.twitter.com/kZ6v64jWEo

— Nathalie Jones (@NathalieABC17) September 1, 2023

['Hamas' Jenkins]

It's so much more cringe when you hear it.