New Conference re-alignment thread

[Saulbadguy]

The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

Yes. Your football team is the second-least profitable team of the original 12 teams at $4.3 million in net profit. Meanwhile, Texas has a profit of $65 million.

How close do you think basketball comes to bridging that gap?

Not only does KU bball bridge that gap it surpasses it/wickeddumb

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by Wickedson

So you were out there petitioning the Big 12 when every school signed on to unregulated 3rd tier rights when the Big 12 began?

If so then I suppose I have no argument against your stance that MU should leave for the SEC.

I personally enjoy it when a school (Texas) outspends everyone else tenfold and still fields mediocre sports teams.

No, I was like 16 years old and didn't focus on the business side of things.

[Pants]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

That doesn't rebuild the rest of the burned-out shell of a hotel, and the two guests with the quickest access to the emergency exits are still setting off fireworks in the lobby.

The burned out shell of a hotel? Each school is going to make more money as a result of that initial fire. Was it not reported that FOX was willing to keep the initial contract intact even after the TAMU departure?

If MU can make more money in the SEC dude to the inability to generate any kind of T3 here in the B12, then I can see why you would want to leave. If the school stands to make more money in the B12 than it would in the SEC and be guaranteed stability for the next 10 years, would you prefer MU to stay or leave?

[Pants]

Originally Posted by Trevo_410

You guys ever think that maybe Mizzou got tired of all the shit you've said through this whole thing? It seems like every school except ISU in the big12 has been a part of this group thought Missouri would never have the balls to change conferences...

"What has Missouri won? No-one would care of Missouri left."

"Easily Replaceable."

Something about us getting left out of the big10 last year...

So now that we're on the brink of leaving all this big12 all you guys are kissing our asses -- particularly most of the smaller schools including kU. We're doing what's doing best for us, not for you guys. The only negative about going to the SEC would be losing to the best football teams in the country. That's it.

So it's all about the bruised ego for this kid. This is the reason 90% of the MU fans want to GTFO, I bet. Who's kissing your ass anyway, little buddy?

[mnchiefsguy]

Originally Posted by Pants

The burned out shell of a hotel? Each school is going to make more money as a result of that initial fire. Was it not reported that FOX was willing to keep the initial contract intact even after the TAMU departure?

If MU can make more money in the SEC dude to the inability to generate any kind of T3 here in the B12, then I can see why you would want to leave. If the school stands to make more money in the B12 than it would in the SEC and be guaranteed stability for the next 10 years, would you prefer MU to stay or leave?

BIG XII might be able to guarantee stability for 10 years (I doubt it, Texas is not willing to commit that long), but no way BIG XII will be able to match SEC money, since the SEC is on the verge of creating an SEC network, which the BIG XII will never have because of the LHN in Texas. So your question is a non-starter until Texas decides to give up on LHN and help form a BIG XII network.

[Pants]

Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy

BIG XII might be able to guarantee stability for 10 years (I doubt it, Texas is not willing to commit that long), but no way BIG XII will be able to match SEC money, since the SEC is on the verge of creating an SEC network, which the BIG XII will never have because of the LHN in Texas. So your question is a non-starter until Texas decides to give up on LHN and help form a BIG XII network.

Like I said, if MU stands to make more money in the SEC, by all means, you guys should have been out of here yesterday.

[Crush]

DanBeebe Fake Dan Beebe
Has anybody in the Big 12 asked for permission to look elsewhere today? Still getting used to the Neinas way of things.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by Pants

The burned out shell of a hotel? Each school is going to make more money as a result of that initial fire. Was it not reported that FOX was willing to keep the initial contract intact even after the TAMU departure?

If MU can make more money in the SEC dude to the inability to generate any kind of T3 here in the B12, then I can see why you would want to leave. If the school stands to make more money in the B12 than it would in the SEC and be guaranteed stability for the next 10 years, would you prefer MU to stay or leave?

I'd still prefer to leave, but the decision wouldn't be quite as easy. There has already been too much damage done, in my mind, to make it worth staying. The SEC will bring in a ton more in revenue than the Big XII under any model. The SEC doesn't have a history of screwing over our program by allowing shady back-room deals when it comes to bowl selections. The SEC doesn't have a bunch of teams constantly looking for a way to leave the rest of the conference high and dry.

Basically, the Big XII is proposing marriage as a way of assuring Mizzou that the Texas and Oklahoma schools will stop sleeping around the way they did when we were just living together. I'm not having it. If you're honest with yourself, you'd admit that KU would jump to the B1G in an instant if the offer were on the table.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by Pants

Like I said, if MU stands to make more money in the SEC, by all means, you guys should have been out of here yesterday.

/tips cap

Now is the border-war worth preserving when there is no conference schedule to mandate playing each other, or was all that "rivalry" talk just a bunch of flowery talk that didn't really mean anything?

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by Pants

So it's all about the bruised ego for this kid. This is the reason 90% of the MU fans want to GTFO, I bet. Who's kissing your ass anyway, little buddy?

I'm not sensing much ass kissing, but it would probably be a good idea to put a padlock on the kid's pet rabbit cage, lest it end up boiling in a pot on the stove.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by Pants

Who's kissing your ass anyway, little buddy?

Remember the good times! /Chuck Neinas

[Pants]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

/tips cap

Now is the border-war worth preserving when there is no conference schedule to mandate playing each other, or was all that "rivalry" talk just a bunch of flowery talk that didn't really mean anything?

I'm down for whatever is in the best interest of KU.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by Pants

I'm down for whatever is in the best interest of KU.

And what is best for KU in your opinion?

1. "Punishing" Mizzou for doing what you have acknowledged is best for the university by refusing to keep the border-war alive

or

2. Playing a non-con game against your biggest rival even though you are no longer in the same conference a la Iowa-ISU

[Pants]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

And what is best for KU in your opinion?

1. "Punishing" Mizzou for doing what you have acknowledged is best for the university by refusing to keep the border-war alive

or

2. Playing a non-con game against your biggest rival even though you are no longer in the same conference a la Iowa-ISU

That depends. Are we going to play MU instead of tOSU for example? If that's the case, I think it would be in the best interest of KU to go ahead and play tOSU instead.

As far as football is concerned, I'd like to keep the Arrowhead showdown.

[tooge]

Originally Posted by Wickedson

Is the mini bar free?

Only for a few people in the hotel. You are not one of them