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[BigRedChief]

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[Miles]

Originally Posted by lewdog

A difference insurance question here and Sauto price estimate if you can. What's the rough cost to replace a car window if it's shattered?

I just figured out that our car insurance policy has been charging us an $80 yearly glass coverage that waives our $1k deductible for glass only coverage on one of our cars. The reason we have a $1k deductible is because we would never have a problem paying out $1k for an unexpected car repair. This gets us lower yearly rates and in the past 7 years, we've never had even one insurance claim anyway. He stated the new car would be $120 for this glass policy for the year, meaning we'd be paying $200 a year in "glass coverage" for both cars, something that we would maybe rarely use (haven't yet), when the cost to replace a car window probably isn't even that much anyway. I'm thinking about discontinuing this glass coverage on both car policies.

Sauto is the one that could tell you better and glass can be cheaper in some markets. Last time I had to deal with glass it was under $300 for my windshield for name brand stuff.

[DJ's left nut]

Wheel ideas to replace these:



Thoughts? Lots of chrome so I think I'd want to stay with the chrome wheels just to continue the theme (not my general preference but probably works best on this particular car).

5-spokes are just too common. I'm partial to the kind of pro-touring style wheels; forgeline makes some really pretty ones but that's why I'm calling all comers here. Anything you've seen recently that stands out?

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Wheel ideas to replace these:



Thoughts? Lots of chrome so I think I'd want to stay with the chrome wheels just to continue the theme (not my general preference but probably works best on this particular car).

5-spokes are just too common. I'm partial to the kind of pro-touring style wheels; forgeline makes some really pretty ones but that's why I'm calling all comers here. Anything you've seen recently that stands out?

MHT offers a pretty wide selection.

Wheel Pros (american racing) and Raceline also come to mind. Honestly, there's sooo many freakin' wheel manufactures out there....

Budnik wheels are pretty dope too.

I've seen so many that it's all kind of a blur. After awhile you realize everyone is just ripping off everyone else's design and everyone is kinda making slightly varied versions of the same freakin' wheel.

Personally im a fan of 3-piece wheels, but they're the most expensive. At the very least you should opt for a 2-piece so you can control the backspacing to get that maximum "deep-dish" look.

[ToxSocks]

Also, check out concave style wheels. Im not sure about Camaros, but if you're limited in space and need a more positive offset, but want that deep dish look, the concave style is a real nice solution to that.

We have a car in our shop that uses that damn Roadster Shop MII front end w/ the 'vette spindles and it's too wide for the car, forcing us to use a wheel with more positive offset than normal. The customer wants that dished look so we custom ordered a set similar to these and they are really, really nice.

http://www.mhtwheels.com/circuit-w-1669.htm

Check out the red and black wheel. The contrast in the picture makes it easier to see the depth it creates while maintaining a positive offset.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

MHT offers a pretty wide selection.

Wheel Pros (american racing) and Raceline also come to mind. Honestly, there's sooo many freakin' wheel manufactures out there....

Budnik wheels are pretty dope too.

I've seen so many that it's all kind of a blur. After awhile you realize everyone is just ripping off everyone else's design and everyone is kinda making slightly varied versions of the same freakin' wheel.

Personally im a fan of 3-piece wheels, but they're the most expensive. At the very least you should opt for a 2-piece so you can control the backspacing to get that maximum "deep-dish" look.

Love the 3 piece wheels but at $1,500/pop (on the low side) when I'm also trying to convince the wife to let me put EFI in and finally fix the damn AC (compressor's shot; it's 'zinging' the timing belt whenever I rev it at idle so there are clearly some valve issues in there).

The extent of my leverage is "you want me to get an SUV, if you let me turn the camaro into more of a daily driver, I'll get the damn regular SUV instead of insisting on some 500 HP monster like the Trackhawk or an M4 convertible or the new ZL1 or some other crazy shit"....

That is...uh...not excellent leverage. And I can't even say I'll hold off on buying the new SUV because she wants me to get on it now so I can get that paid off and she can turn around and trade-in her truck. I have dick for an argument here other than selling my motorcycle and that's the trump card that I need to **** my secretary or something. That can get me whatever the hell I want so I'm not using it on wheels.

I'm going to desperately try to do this for $2k in wheels/tires but I suspect that's a losing bet. The tires absolutely have to be replaced - they're old and the chemical composition is spent. But the 8 inchers in the front are too wide and I get fender rub so now's the time to just move them to 7 inchers so I can take the rubbers out of the springs and get that raked look back.

But the issue is, as you said, there are so damn many manufacturers and choices out there that I just sit there and stare until my eyes glaze over and I decide to do actual work, which is somehow a more attractive option than wheel shopping.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Also, check out concave style wheels. Im not sure about Camaros, but if you're limited in space and need a more positive offset, but want that deep dish look, the concave style is a real nice solution to that.

We have a car in our shop that uses that damn Roadster Shop MII front end w/ the 'vette spindles and it's too wide for the car, forcing us to use a wheel with more positive offset than normal. The customer wants that dished look so we custom ordered a set similar to these and they are really, really nice.

http://www.mhtwheels.com/circuit-w-1669.htm

Check out the red and black wheel. The contrast in the picture makes it easier to see the depth it creates while maintaining a positive offset.

Those do look nice.

So the concave wheels would help with the shoulder rub? I'm terrified that I'm going to split a sidewall in a turn one of these days and I hate having passengers because every dip/turn is an adventure with the extra 130+ lbs in the front.

[DJ's left nut]

Thoughts?

Spoiler!

That configurator thing is slick as hell.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Those do look nice.

So the concave wheels would help with the shoulder rub? I'm terrified that I'm going to split a sidewall in a turn one of these days and I hate having passengers because every dip/turn is an adventure with the extra 130+ lbs in the front.

Not really, but they'll help give the impression of a wider wheel w/ a more negative backspace, when you don't REALLY have the room.

Your rubbing issue is exactly why i suggested a 2 piece wheel. Often time w/ a 1-piece cast wheel, they just use generic offsets that "should" fit your car.

Now, i don't know about Camaros, but with Mustangs, no two 67's are ever the same. What may fit on one car, may not fit on another. So for our in shop builds, we never take for granted the wheel backspacing and always measure. For our retail wheels that we sell online, we always go with what we KNOW will fit for sure, over what may actually end up looking the best, because we're not there to measure for the customer.

The difference may only be 1/8th", but that 1/8" could be the difference between peeling rubber off your sidewall or not.

I would recommend dropping down to 7" as well for these older cars. Most guys say that they can fit 17x8's, and that may be true for some guys, but for others, they'll rub. 8" wide is almost always the maximum and for most older cars in the front, it's really pushing it.

We always recommend 7" wide because then we KNOW that there won't be rubbing.

However, if you want to maximize the width as well as the depth for that dished look, then you must go with a custom measured, 2- piece design

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Thoughts?



That configurator thing is slick as hell.

Not my cup of tea, but to each their own.

[DJ's left nut]

Spoiler!

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I'm going to desperately try to do this for $2k in wheels/tires but I suspect that's a losing bet. The tires absolutely have to be replaced - they're old and the chemical composition is spent. But the 8 inchers in the front are too wide and I get fender rub so now's the time to just move them to 7 inchers so I can take the rubbers out of the springs and get that raked look back.

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You could beat your 2K budget with 1-piece designs, generally. 2-piece are generally a bit more, but nowhere near the cost of 3-piece wheels.

I'd call Wheel Pros (american racing) if i were you. They offer a lot of their wheels in both 1-piece cast as well as 2-piece "custom shop".

Also, i'd call around and ask these companies what their default Backspacing is for a '67 Camaro.

I wouldn't be shocked at all if it varies from manufacture to manufacture. And if it does...you got some research to do.

[Perineum Ripper]

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Those look a lot better than your first pic imo

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by mac459

not bad at all...

Spoiler!

US Mags has some nice lookin' wheels. Hadn't heard of them.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Those look a lot better than your first pic imo

Yeah, I'm inclined to agree; much simpler, cleaner look.

Mac's looked a lot better as well.