Chiefs The fate of Chris Jones 2023 edition - Page 205

**TribalElder** · 07-22-2023, 06:08 PM

Appears the Chiefs and Chris Jones are at the beginning of a contract dispute

Speculation has been that the two sides are "far apart" on a deal

So Chiefs Planet.... how do we think this will play out (poll coming)

Will the Chiefs pay up and meet Chris Jones demands? If so, how much will it end up costing?

Will the Chiefs not be able to meet Chris Jones demands and end up trading him? If so, what kind of haul can we expect?

I've really loved watching Chris Jones wreck shit for the Chiefs, it always sucks when the business side of the NFL forces teams into tough decisions.

tredadda · 08-30-2023, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by milkshock

Well they ended up paying similarly ‘stupid’ money for another player who we don’t know that much about at this point.

As for Hill, my point being like Jones and OBJ we seem to be a magnet for these kind of vicious disputes in a way other teams do not? Guess we’re just unlucky

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Brown Jr was not signing here. That ship sailed and it had zero to do with Veach. Brown Jr wanted to reset the market and Veach called his bluff. Brown Jr ended up signing for less than KC offered him. Zero chance he was coming back for less than KC originally offered him, and zero chance Veach would have offered him the same as the original offer.

DrunkBassGuitar · 08-30-2023, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I think it's more pride than money at this stage.

Because if he's really going to sit out, he's not gonna earn this money back. He'll end up upside down on the balance sheet when its all said and done.

He's just weirdly pissed off for some reason. I don't get it.

it's the sunk cost fallacy. he's already losing money so he has to hold out for the massive payout to make up for it (even if it won't actually make up for it).

I don't actually hate CJ I just think he's gotten bad advice. players look at this differently than fans, I have no expectation for him to feel the same way about the chiefs that I do

**Old Dog** · 08-30-2023, 08:27 AM

WOW!!! Just caught up on the last 15 or so hours of this thread. I'm guessing jettio is going to wake up with a hell of a hangover. Had to be drunk AF to post all of that stupidity.

TEX · 08-30-2023, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by tredadda

Brown Jr was not signing here. That ship sailed and it had zero to do with Veach. Brown Jr wanted to reset the market and Veach called his bluff. Brown Jr ended up signing for less than KC offered him. Zero chance he was coming back for less than KC originally offered him, and zero chance Veach would have offered him the same as the original offer.

Yep. Ive gone back and read that OBJ poll thread, and I cant believe all those who wanted to pay him. So adament about it too.

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I think we are so much better off now.

**Bwana** · 08-30-2023, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Old Dog

WOW!!! Just caught up on the last 15 or so hours of this thread. I'm guessing jettio is going to wake up with a hell of a hangover. Had to be drunk AF to post all of that stupidity.

Yeah, I was reading those posts last night thinking, he must have sprung for the $6 bottle of Old Crow with the attitude, "By God, I'm going to finish this bottle!!"

royr17 · 08-30-2023, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Dudes gonna blow 12 million to prove a point.

Congrats I guess

Like my dad always says " A fool and his money will soon part"

O.city · 08-30-2023, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Tag and trade if he has another good year. Even if it could take you out of the first wave of FA as a worst case scenario, the draft picks would make up for it

Thing is…..if the money is what we’re hearing I’m not sure he’s gonna get anyone to trade and pay it

O.city · 08-30-2023, 08:49 AM

The chiefs run into this because they win. A lot. And win big games.

Guys associate that with getting paid big money.

Tonka83 · 08-30-2023, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by DrunkBassGuitar

it's the sunk cost fallacy. he's already losing money so he has to hold out for the massive payout to make up for it (even if it won't actually make up for it).

I don't actually hate CJ I just think he's gotten bad advice. players look at this differently than fans, I have no expectation for him to feel the same way about the chiefs that I do

This is where I'm at too.
He got bad advice or his ego got the best of him.

Come play lights out the last year of your contract and let the market decide what happens next year.

Toad · 08-30-2023, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Dudes gonna blow 12 million to prove a point.

Congrats I guess

True and sad

Wisconsin_Chief · 08-30-2023, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

The chiefs run into this because they win. A lot. And win big games.

Guys associate that with getting paid big money.

Exactly, this is going to be a consistent problem as long as Mahomes and Reid are here. We will keep winning big and being in the spotlight, and guys like OBJ, Hill and Jones will come and go thinking they're bigger than they really are.

It's literally the exact same thing that happened to the Patriots. They watched guys like Ty Law, Lawyer Milloy and Richard Seymour (just to name a few) price their way out of town and they just kept winning because they had Brady and Belichick. This is who we are now, and it's part of the reason so many people said maintaining a dynasty would be next to impossible. Everyone wants to be a star, everyone wants to get paid.

It was probably short sighted to think guys like Hill and Jones would just keep taking team friendly deals to stick around. Not everyone is in this league for the glory of greatness like Pat, Andy and Kelce. Jones won it all twice now and now he wants his money and stardom. We'll move on and keep winning and guys like him and Hill will rot away with shitbag franchises in their twilight years just like the guys I mentioned above. I'm already over him and look forward to getting some picks for him.

tredadda · 08-30-2023, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX

Yep. Ive gone back and read that OBJ poll thread, and I cant believe all those who wanted to pay him. So adament about it too.

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I think we are so much better off now.

If Smith is at worst the equal of Brown Jr. then KC still wins that situation. They get equal performance for a fraction of the long term cost and if he's Brown Jr. level good, KC can walk away at the end of the season from him vs being stuck with Brown Jr long term.

Seanathon · 08-30-2023, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Bwana

At this point, zero shits given. He's basically turned into turncoat Neil Smith 2.0 at this point. Up until the latest turn of events, he was one of my favorites players.

Bad example, Neil wanted to win a championship and won 2 at Denver. I can admire wanting to win. Jones won 2 championships and now wants his bag.

**The Franchise** · 08-30-2023, 09:17 AM

All of these contracts and holdouts just make me love Kelce even more. Dude is severely underpaid but you never hear him complain about it and he's publicly said that he doesn't want to play for anyone other than the Chiefs. He knows that Mahomes/Reid are his best chance for cementing him as the best TE ever.

Wisconsin_Chief · 08-30-2023, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Seanathon

Bad example, Neil wanted to win a championship and won 2 at Denver. I can admire wanting to win. Jones won 2 championships and now wants his bag.

Yep, this is the exact opposite of that situation. Neil knew he wasn't going to win shit with dipshit Peterson at the helm, and he bailed for a team with an actual franchise QB. Can't blame him one bit.

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