Home Discord Chat
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > Nzoner's Game Room
Reload this Page Chiefs *****The Patrick Mahomes Thread*****
Register FAQDonate Members List Calendar

Reply
Page 205 of 2801 « First 105155195201202203204 205 2062072082092152553057051205 Last »
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-27-2017, 07:19 PM  
Dante84 Dante84 is online now
Tossed Salad & Scrambled Eggs
 
Dante84's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: ATX & OPKS
Casino cash: $-268004
VARSITY
*****The Patrick Mahomes Thread*****
IT ****ING HAPPENED



OP UPDATE:

Because of all the interest in this thread, I've place all of the video content of Patrick Mahomes II's college career, and draft day goodness into a single post that can be found here. Enjoy!
Last edited by Dante84; 05-17-2017 at 09:40 AM..
Posts: 20,124
Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2017, 03:40 PM   #3061
Halfcan Halfcan is offline
In Search of a Life
 
Halfcan's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2005
Casino cash: $7327995
Quote:
Originally Posted by RunKC View Post
Really good article on how Mahomes has improved his technique and mechanics in the last 6 months in pre-draft coaching and OTA's.

https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2017/6/...as-tech-chiefs
Looking forward to seeing his progress once training camp starts. He has made a lot of positive changes in 6 months.
Posts: 43,200
Halfcan is obviously part of the inner Circle.Halfcan is obviously part of the inner Circle.Halfcan is obviously part of the inner Circle.Halfcan is obviously part of the inner Circle.Halfcan is obviously part of the inner Circle.Halfcan is obviously part of the inner Circle.Halfcan is obviously part of the inner Circle.Halfcan is obviously part of the inner Circle.Halfcan is obviously part of the inner Circle.Halfcan is obviously part of the inner Circle.Halfcan is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2017, 03:51 PM   #3062
ToxSocks ToxSocks is online now
Needs more middle fingers
 
ToxSocks's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: San Diego
Casino cash: $2613063
Quote:
Originally Posted by RunKC View Post
Really good article on how Mahomes has improved his technique and mechanics in the last 6 months in pre-draft coaching and OTA's.

https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2017/6/...as-tech-chiefs
Color me skeptical.
__________________
Life is like a dick. Sometimes it gets hard for no reason, but it can't stay hard forever.
Posts: 65,887
ToxSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.ToxSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.ToxSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.ToxSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.ToxSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.ToxSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.ToxSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.ToxSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.ToxSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.ToxSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.ToxSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2017, 03:56 PM   #3063
SAUTO SAUTO is offline
Shit
 

Join Date: Jun 2008
Casino cash: $10039067
Quote:
Originally Posted by Detoxing View Post
Color me skeptical.
Me too, especially when the bullets are flying.

But he did seem to blow up towards the end after he was getting worked out.

And he didn't always throw with that almost sidearm motion before either.
Posts: 55,715
SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2017, 03:59 PM   #3064
DaneMcCloud DaneMcCloud is offline
Supporter
 
DaneMcCloud's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Hollywood, CA
Casino cash: $10053648
Quote:
Originally Posted by Detoxing View Post
Color me skeptical.

Me, too, which is why I've been saying that Mahomes starting in 2018 is an unreasonable expectation.

He has a long, long way to go.
Posts: 88,960
DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2017, 04:14 PM   #3065
beach tribe beach tribe is offline
Keep doubting J MFing Houston
 
beach tribe's Avatar
 

Join Date: May 2007
Location: ft.lauderdale
Casino cash: $4388036
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud View Post
Me, too, which is why I've been saying that Mahomes starting in 2018 is an unreasonable expectation.

He has a long, long way to go.
If he can't learn how to make his drops and call plays in a full season on the bench, then he should never have been drafted in the first or hell even the 2nd round..

He's a smart kid who works really hard and obviously wants to improve and wants to play....sooner rather than later.

A lot of you guys are really over blowing his situation..

He will be the starter in 2018, and he damn well better be ready or the coaching staff has failed.
With the staff we have, I don't expect them to fail..
Posts: 21,429
beach tribe is obviously part of the inner Circle.beach tribe is obviously part of the inner Circle.beach tribe is obviously part of the inner Circle.beach tribe is obviously part of the inner Circle.beach tribe is obviously part of the inner Circle.beach tribe is obviously part of the inner Circle.beach tribe is obviously part of the inner Circle.beach tribe is obviously part of the inner Circle.beach tribe is obviously part of the inner Circle.beach tribe is obviously part of the inner Circle.beach tribe is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2017, 04:19 PM   #3066
DaneMcCloud DaneMcCloud is offline
Supporter
 
DaneMcCloud's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Hollywood, CA
Casino cash: $10053648
Quote:
Originally Posted by beach tribe View Post
If he can't learn how to make his drops and call plays in a full season on the bench, then he should never have been drafted in the first or hell even the 2nd round..

He's a smart kid who works really hard and obviously wants to improve and wants to play....sooner rather than later.

A lot of you guys are really over blowing his situation..

He will be the starter in 2018, and he damn well better be ready or the coaching staff has failed.

I'm expecting him to well.
No, I'm not overstating the situation, at all.

O.City made the same comment back in January, that once he saw video of Mahomes games, he wouldn't take him before the 3rd round. I disagreed and thought the Chiefs should do whatever it takes to trade up and get him in the first and fortunately, they did just that.

But QB's are overvalued each and every year because great QB's are so rare. Mahomes will not only need to fix his mechanics and call plays with 18 words, he'll need to do it naturally and not fall back into bad habits.

The minute he's ready to lead the Chiefs will be when he's under center and not thinking about the play call or his mechanics, but the opposing defense.

That's going to take time.
Posts: 88,960
DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2017, 04:19 PM   #3067
beach tribe beach tribe is offline
Keep doubting J MFing Houston
 
beach tribe's Avatar
 

Join Date: May 2007
Location: ft.lauderdale
Casino cash: $4388036
As for the article...Reid has already said that he's not worried about his mechanics that much because he has the arm talent to get the ball wherever he wants it whether his mechanics are correct or not....Farve like, I believe he said.

Of course they will work to improve them, but it's not the issue that many, including the article's author make it out to be.
Last edited by beach tribe; 06-09-2017 at 04:44 PM..
Posts: 21,429
beach tribe is obviously part of the inner Circle.beach tribe is obviously part of the inner Circle.beach tribe is obviously part of the inner Circle.beach tribe is obviously part of the inner Circle.beach tribe is obviously part of the inner Circle.beach tribe is obviously part of the inner Circle.beach tribe is obviously part of the inner Circle.beach tribe is obviously part of the inner Circle.beach tribe is obviously part of the inner Circle.beach tribe is obviously part of the inner Circle.beach tribe is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2017, 04:43 PM   #3068
beach tribe beach tribe is offline
Keep doubting J MFing Houston
 
beach tribe's Avatar
 

Join Date: May 2007
Location: ft.lauderdale
Casino cash: $4388036
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud View Post
No, I'm not overstating the situation, at all.

O.City made the same comment back in January, that once he saw video of Mahomes games, he wouldn't take him before the 3rd round. I disagreed and thought the Chiefs should do whatever it takes to trade up and get him in the first and fortunately, they did just that.

But QB's are overvalued each and every year because great QB's are so rare. Mahomes will not only need to fix his mechanics and call plays with 18 words, he'll need to do it naturally and not fall back into bad habits.

The minute he's ready to lead the Chiefs will be when he's under center and not thinking about the play call or his mechanics, but the opposing defense.

That's going to take time.
17 months is long enough to learn another language,.
I don't think it will be an issue for the man to learn how to call plays.

I started reading up on what goes into calling the plays, and I can half assed spit out west coast offense verbiage, having spent less than half an hr reading into it.

I am not trying to downplay the difficulty of learning the playbook, but we are talking about over a year of watching, studying and practicing..
If the guy has half a brain, he will be ready to play..

If he is not on the field week one of 2018, then we should all be VERY worried.

But that's not going to happen.
Because playing time is also needed to really get a full grasp on how to play the position, and there is no way anyone spends a Top ten pick on a player, to not have him see the field until his third season.

It has NEVER Happened before.....Ever.
And it never will..
The closest thing is the Aaron Rodgers situation, which, actually, isn't the same situation, because not being ready, is not the reason he didn't play.
Last edited by beach tribe; 06-09-2017 at 04:49 PM..
Posts: 21,429
beach tribe is obviously part of the inner Circle.beach tribe is obviously part of the inner Circle.beach tribe is obviously part of the inner Circle.beach tribe is obviously part of the inner Circle.beach tribe is obviously part of the inner Circle.beach tribe is obviously part of the inner Circle.beach tribe is obviously part of the inner Circle.beach tribe is obviously part of the inner Circle.beach tribe is obviously part of the inner Circle.beach tribe is obviously part of the inner Circle.beach tribe is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2017, 04:50 PM   #3069
RunKC RunKC is online now
Andy Reid Supporter
 
RunKC's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2012
Casino cash: $169611
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud View Post
No, I'm not overstating the situation, at all.

O.City made the same comment back in January, that once he saw video of Mahomes games, he wouldn't take him before the 3rd round. I disagreed and thought the Chiefs should do whatever it takes to trade up and get him in the first and fortunately, they did just that.

But QB's are overvalued each and every year because great QB's are so rare. Mahomes will not only need to fix his mechanics and call plays with 18 words, he'll need to do it naturally and not fall back into bad habits.

The minute he's ready to lead the Chiefs will be when he's under center and not thinking about the play call or his mechanics, but the opposing defense.

That's going to take time.
Mahomes was on the all-academic team off the field and on the field he called 13 word plays.

The mental part of the game will not be a huge concern IMO. He's way ahead of a prospect like Paxton Lynch mentally coming out of college.
Posts: 48,849
RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2017, 04:51 PM   #3070
beach tribe beach tribe is offline
Keep doubting J MFing Houston
 
beach tribe's Avatar
 

Join Date: May 2007
Location: ft.lauderdale
Casino cash: $4388036
Not even Alex Smith thinks he will be starting for the Chiefs in 2018.
Posts: 21,429
beach tribe is obviously part of the inner Circle.beach tribe is obviously part of the inner Circle.beach tribe is obviously part of the inner Circle.beach tribe is obviously part of the inner Circle.beach tribe is obviously part of the inner Circle.beach tribe is obviously part of the inner Circle.beach tribe is obviously part of the inner Circle.beach tribe is obviously part of the inner Circle.beach tribe is obviously part of the inner Circle.beach tribe is obviously part of the inner Circle.beach tribe is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2017, 04:55 PM   #3071
jjchieffan jjchieffan is offline
Supporter
 
jjchieffan's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Highlandville, MO
Casino cash: $1602248
Dane, you have been right a lot on player evaluations. But I hope that you're wrong on this one. I am anxious to see our young gunslinger start. I don't mind giving him a year to develop, but man, I don't want to have to wait 2. But, if Andy decides that he needs another year, I'll trust his judgement.
__________________
Genesis 1:1 In the beginning, God created the Heavens and the Earth. Following the historical accounts and the genealogy from that point on, the age of the Earth is approximately 6000-7000 years old. The Big Bullshit Theory is a lie. It and the evolution theory go against real science. Satan has used our public school system to brainwash everyone into believing these lies. Be not decieved.
Posts: 12,952
jjchieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.jjchieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.jjchieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.jjchieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.jjchieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.jjchieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.jjchieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.jjchieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.jjchieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.jjchieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.jjchieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2017, 05:02 PM   #3072
Hammock Parties Hammock Parties is online now
I'll be back.
 
Hammock Parties's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2002
Casino cash: $2610478
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud View Post
Mahomes starting in 2018 is an unreasonable expectation.


Literally flying in the face of the mainstream philosophy for developing a QB in the NFL during the last 20 years, but whatever!
Posts: 289,410
Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2017, 05:04 PM   #3073
Red Dawg Red Dawg is online now
Going home eventually
 
Red Dawg's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2002
Casino cash: $3042858
In 18 he will start. Smith looks to probably go even further down hill. Freaking OTAs and already people are talking about him riding the bench for two years.
__________________
If you're not first you're last!
Posts: 31,817
Red Dawg is obviously part of the inner Circle.Red Dawg is obviously part of the inner Circle.Red Dawg is obviously part of the inner Circle.Red Dawg is obviously part of the inner Circle.Red Dawg is obviously part of the inner Circle.Red Dawg is obviously part of the inner Circle.Red Dawg is obviously part of the inner Circle.Red Dawg is obviously part of the inner Circle.Red Dawg is obviously part of the inner Circle.Red Dawg is obviously part of the inner Circle.Red Dawg is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2017, 05:24 PM   #3074
RunKC RunKC is online now
Andy Reid Supporter
 
RunKC's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2012
Casino cash: $169611
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties View Post


Literally flying in the face of the mainstream philosophy for developing a QB in the NFL during the last 20 years, but whatever!
And how many of those teams using that philosophy developed a successful QB long term?

If Andy says he needs to sit year 2, I'm 100% fine with that.
Last edited by RunKC; 06-09-2017 at 05:31 PM..
Posts: 48,849
RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2017, 05:35 PM   #3075
Sweet Daddy Hate Sweet Daddy Hate is offline
Unsparing
 
Sweet Daddy Hate's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2008
Casino cash: $10004900
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties View Post


Literally flying in the face of the mainstream philosophy for developing a QB in the NFL during the last 20 years, but whatever!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy View Post
In 18 he will start. Smith looks to probably go even further down hill. Freaking OTAs and already people are talking about him riding the bench for two years.
I recall being told quite vehemently by...someone...gee, I just can't seem to remember who...
that NO ONE takes a QB in the first round and sits them for a year. NO ONE!

And I would imagine that such a hard and fast rule is DOUBLY applicable if said team ACTUALLY TRADED PICKS TO MOVE UP AND GET HIM!
__________________
1. Merciless, severe. 2. Given freely and generously.
100% refusal to overrate 20 year Head Coaches with ZERO ****ing rings as a Head Coach.
CP's Official Professor of 'Dem Blues for 2019/2020!
Posts: 77,135
Sweet Daddy Hate is obviously part of the inner Circle.Sweet Daddy Hate is obviously part of the inner Circle.Sweet Daddy Hate is obviously part of the inner Circle.Sweet Daddy Hate is obviously part of the inner Circle.Sweet Daddy Hate is obviously part of the inner Circle.Sweet Daddy Hate is obviously part of the inner Circle.Sweet Daddy Hate is obviously part of the inner Circle.Sweet Daddy Hate is obviously part of the inner Circle.Sweet Daddy Hate is obviously part of the inner Circle.Sweet Daddy Hate is obviously part of the inner Circle.Sweet Daddy Hate is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Reply
Page 205 of 2801 « First 105155195201202203204 205 2062072082092152553057051205 Last »

« Previous Thread | > Nzoner's Game Room < | Next Thread »

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:22 PM.

Contact Us - ChiefsPlanet - Archive - Top

This is a test for a client's site.
Fort Worth Texas Process Servers
Covering Arlington, Fort Worth, Grand Prairie and surrounding communities.
Tarrant County, Texas and Johnson County, Texas.
Advertise with us!
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.