***** Official Chiefs vs Raiders Thread *****

[BigRedChief]

Lets get the revenge for the Christmas game last year.

Due to Miami's loss last night, if we win, we clinch a post season spot.

[Gary Cooper]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

Maybe we could just set Mahomes up to get some deep ball lessons from Joe in the offseason..

Or maybe Aidan O’Connell who just outplayed Mahomie..?

Honestly, we could get about 20 QBs league wide to help Pat on his deep ball.




Generally I agree but in this situation I liked it. We were averaging less than 2 YPC all game outside of one big Pacheco run. We weren’t getting 2+ yards on a run there and I think running there only would have taken like an extra 5-10 seconds off the clock.

I like putting the ball in your HoF QBs’ hands there. Especially when he’s got the fastest WR in the league in single coverage with some bum ass 2-9 CB2.

That should have been a fairly easy conversion.

Are you sure? We had just gained 8 yards on the first two downs by rushing. Our power backs can get two yards in two plays.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by DRM08

You could have put the ball in his hands for a 5 yard throw instead of a 50 yard throw. Just saying, lol

When we ask him to throw short it's 'Nagy made him Alex Smith'

And when he misses every ****ing deep shot he takes every single week it's 'Nagy is asking him to throw deep!'

Nagy isn't the reason he can't hit the broad side of a ****ing barn more than 20 yards down the field.

[Gary Cooper]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

It was a playcall that yielded an easy throw and catch that would've iced the game.

And for the third time in that game (and really EVERY game since Baltimore), PM just missed the throw.

He leaves 100 yards on the field seemingly every single week. He had that ball. He just missed it. Again.

That's not an easy throw. It's a deep throw down the field. Yes, he should make that throw but I wouldn't consider it "easy"

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Maybe at some point we should start playing expecting a half billion dollar quarterback to not struggle with that throw. Or easy throws to the back of the end zone.

Or we can just run a play that actually makes sense in the context of the game and our QB instead of a playcall involving the deep ball that he hasn’t hit in a month

When was the last time he outplayed the opposing QB? It's been awhile.

No clue although if it was last January/February when he had one of the greatest postseason runs a QB has ever had (i.e. the last meaningful games this franchise played) it wouldn’t bother me at all

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

When we ask him to throw short it's 'Nagy made him Alex Smith'

And when he misses every ****ing deep shot he takes every single week it's 'Nagy is asking him to throw deep!'

Nagy isn't the reason he can't hit the broad side of a ****ing barn more than 20 yards down the field.

I haven't said anything about Nagy or Alex. My biggest problem with playcalling is Andy's tendency to do those stupid gadget/trick plays that go nowhere. I'm in favor of Mahomes going for higher percentage short throws. Better than when he makes a dumb throw into double or triple coverage downfield.

[-King-]

I didn't realize O'Connell had 340 yards passing.


Aidan O'Connell. Three hundred and forty

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by St. Patty's Fire

i mean, that yolo ball that bowers had to catch with one hand was a once in a lifetime throw. we’d probably have to add

Bowers would be nice but we’d still need a QB who can throw when it truly matters

Mahomes hasn’t done enough to prove that he’s that guy yet

[St. Patty's Fire]

Originally Posted by -King-

I didn't realize O'Connell had 340 yards passing.


Aidan O'Connell. Three hundred and forty

with 1 and a half good receivers. yeah its a rough performance to swallow lol.

but hey we only gave up 17 points when the other team has 340 yards passing! glass half full!

[kccrow]

Acting like we'll be fine because we're beating middle-of-the-road teams by a score in November is one thing, but saying we're fine because we're flat-out struggling to win against the very bottom of the barrel is another. This team is far from "fine." They'd be getting their asses handed to them by playoff-caliber teams right now. We should be beating teams like Carolina and Las Vegas by 20 or 30 points. Our tackles are playing like shit, our beloved QB is playing like shit, and our defense is playing like shit all around. There's alot to fix between now and January.

[Vindicator]

Id rather be lucky than good

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by kccrow

Acting like we'll be fine because we're beating middle-of-the-road teams by a score in November is one thing, but saying we're fine because we're flat-out struggling to win against the very bottom of the barrel is another. This team is far from "fine." They'd be getting their asses handed to them by playoff-caliber teams right now. We should be beating teams like Carolina and Las Vegas by 20 or 30 points. Our tackles are playing like shit, our beloved QB is playing like shit, and our defense is playing like shit all around.

They’re fine

They were literally losing all these games this time last year

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Or we can just run a play that actually makes sense in the context of the game and our QB instead of a playcall involving the deep ball that he hasn’t hit in a month


No clue although if it was last January/February when he had one of the greatest postseason runs a QB has ever had (i.e. the last meaningful games this franchise played) it wouldn’t bother me at all

Well he missed a 5 yard slant that should've been as easy a TD as exists a drive prior.

There's not a throw in the world he's capable of hitting with any consistency right now. Not a single one.

The play call wasn't the problem. He had a good look and a throw he should hit. And he didn't. Again. If you think playing the slice of your most important player is going to get you anywhere, I just don't know what to tell you.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

I wonder if the Raiders would take Mahomes off our hands for us

Anybody who can throw like O’Connell is worth a shot at the starting QB spot

Well we’re locked in with Mahomes until at least 2028.

Cap hits of ~$65m the next three years. I don’t think it’s too much to ask that he not be outplayed by dregs of the league like AOC.

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by kccrow

Acting like we'll be fine because we're beating middle-of-the-road teams by a score in November is one thing, but saying we're fine because we're flat-out struggling to win against the very bottom of the barrel is another. This team is far from "fine." They'd be getting their asses handed to them by playoff-caliber teams right now. We should be beating teams like Carolina and Las Vegas by 20 or 30 points. Our tackles are playing like shit, our beloved QB is playing like shit, and our defense is playing like shit all around. There's alot to fix between now and January.

I mean, they just played on the road against Buffalo and it was a pretty competitive game. Buffalo got some major referee help on a couple drives in the 2nd half or it might have looked different in the end. The Chiefs seem to play close games no matter who is the opponent, good or bad.

[Mescalito345]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Time to sell high and trade for younger franchise QB Caleb?

Why can't some of you grasshoppers appreciate a top-three QB of all time? All nba and nfl stars have bad games.