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**Saulbadguy** · 09-12-2011, 07:57 AM

The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.

**HemiEd** · 10-05-2011, 10:50 AM

SEC tournament in KC?

epitome1170 · 10-05-2011, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

SEC tournament in KC?

Yeah I can't see that... I could see it in St. Louis.

**Saul Good** · 10-05-2011, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

Ultimately, I believe that will happen soon. 12-13 years, and Mizzou will stay.

Wrong and wrong.

Pants · 10-05-2011, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

Wrong and wrong.

So conference stability was not the issue? Or are you saying that UT/OU would never sign their rights away for 12 years?

**the Talking Can** · 10-05-2011, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy

Oh, and Bill Self can kiss my ass. Despite the prestige of KU in recruiting, if he does not play Mizzou he will hurt his chances of recruiting in KC, especially if Mizzou winds up in the SEC West, which is pretty weak in BBall, and has some success. Might not see it a first, but a successful Mizzou bball program in the SEC would hurt KU recruiting in this area, given that recruits want TV time and national exposure, which the SEC will provide in spades.

yeah, It's keeping Bill up at night...worrying about getting out recruited by Missouri....

I heard he's already looking for a job in a better conference...

**Saulbadguy** · 10-05-2011, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Pants

So conference stability was not the issue? Or are you saying that UT/OU would never sign their rights away for 12 years?

He's just making a guess. Sort of like what i'm doing. No one really knows what the hell is going on at this point.

Lex Luthor · 10-05-2011, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy

Oh, and Bill Self can kiss my ass. Despite the prestige of KU in recruiting, if he does not play Mizzou he will hurt his chances of recruiting in KC, especially if Mizzou winds up in the SEC West, which is pretty weak in BBall, and has some success. Might not see it a first, but a successful Mizzou bball program in the SEC would hurt KU recruiting in this area, given that recruits want TV time and national exposure, which the SEC will provide in spades.

Yeah, right. Bill Self won't be able to recruit in KC.

Spoken like a true MU fan and KU hater.

vailpass · 10-05-2011, 11:03 AM

Guys on the radio this morning said Mizzou had "held a meeting to decide if they wanted to hold a meeting to explore whether they want to consider leaving B12".
Can anyone translate for me?

Mr. Plow · 10-05-2011, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by vailpass

Guys on the radio this morning said Mizzou had "held a meeting to decide if they wanted to hold a meeting to explore whether they want to consider leaving B12".
Can anyone translate for me?

They are currently in a meeting to discuss holding that meeting to translate the meaning of the original meeting.

Pants · 10-05-2011, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

He's just making a guess. Sort of like what i'm doing. No one really knows what the hell is going on at this point.

Well yeah. I'm just trying to see why all these MU fans want to leave so bad? Is it because of instability? Or is it just so they can say "Haha, see ya bundle of stickss" like billay?

Pitt Gorilla · 10-05-2011, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Brainiac

Yeah, right. Bill Self won't be able to recruit in KC.

Spoken like a true MU fan and KU hater.

I agree, and it wouldn't hurt KU in recruiting. Of course, it wasn't difficult to see the butthurt in Self's quote either.

HolyHandgernade · 10-05-2011, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy

I hope you are wrong. I think Mizzou has started setting the bridge on fire.

As to KC, this is where KU, KSU, and ISU need to flex what little muscle they have. Texas and OU don't really care about BBall, so conceding the BIG XII tourney to KC is an easy bone to throw to those three schools to keep them quiet and in their corner.

I would not be too terribly surprised if an SEC Tournament winds up in Missouri at some point. It would be a great opportunity for SEC hoops to be on display close to B1G country. St. Louis would probably be the pick, but a totally cool scenario would be the Big 12 being in a KC every other year, and in some of the years that the BIG XII is in Dallas or OKC, have the SEC tournament here in KC. Hopefully the city leaders are smart enough to make a pitch and at least try, even though it would be a long shot.

I don't think you really get the whole "Sprint Center would no longer be in Big XII Territory" thing if MU leaves. KU, KSU and ISU are not going to fight to keep the secondary tournament revenues in SEC country. It'll move to OKC and you won't hear a voice of dissent from within the Big XII.

You'll be lucky if the SEC holds anything on the fringe of their territory. Perhaps once every four years St. Louis might get the BB Tournament. Why make a bunch of schools who work on eastern time go to a state in the central time zone?

**Saulbadguy** · 10-05-2011, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Pants

Well yeah. I'm just trying to see why all these MU fans want to leave so bad? Is it because of instability? Or is it just so they can say "Haha, see ya pillowbiters" like billay?

Grass is greener.

vailpass · 10-05-2011, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

They are currently in a meeting to discuss holding that meeting to translate the meaning of the original meeting.

Thanks Plow, now I see.

Mr. Plow · 10-05-2011, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by vailpass

Thanks Plow, now I see.

Clear as day, isn't it?

09-12-2011, 07:57 AM
Saulbadguy When a nightmare becomes real Join Date: Nov 2003 Casino cash: $736966	New Conference re-alignment thread The old one has AIDS. Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month. Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com. Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said. The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said. Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned. If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday. There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12. Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative. Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division. Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox). If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form. Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options." Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas. Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas. There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits. Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC. It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools. Stay tuned.
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