RB has an argument for being our biggest team need - Page 20

RunKC · 01-20-2025, 01:22 PM

Man it’s bad. Like really bad. Really really really bad.

The Chiefs have the least explosive RB room in the NFL. Only 17 explosive plays from RB’s. Pacheco is the most explosive guy, and he’s been a good soldier here, but he’s not the guy. Excellent change of pace back, but his vision is bad and his lateral agility isn’t good either.

I love Kareem but he’s winding down. He’s 30 next year and you could see the wheels start to come off with usage.

I think we should consider a RB rd 1 if the board gets dicey, but ideally we sign someone like Ty Johnson from Buffalo. Also to preface this I think LT is numero uno for us and this is a scenario where one is just not attainable.

Everyone gets so mad at this offense and blames coaching but the pieces have just not been there. The truth is this team badly misses Jerrick McKinnon. They’ve gotten some of that from Perine but it’s just not enough.

We got 1 TD from a RB in the passing game this year. Compare that to:

2023: 7
2022: 12
2021: 5

Major major drop in production there that has killed the offense. I see these playoff teams with quality backs and it’s helped them tremendously.

Getting an explosive, dynamic playmaking RB has to be a major priority. It could change the entire offense and help soften the blow of losing Kelce (eventually) and working on LT

**Tribal Warfare** · 03-28-2025, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Ollie Gordon
Quinshon Judkins
Can Skettebo
Damien Martinez

The guys we have visited/met with have a trend: they are guys who are bigger backs who are hard runners that are experienced and capable of being 3 down backs early. Experience and quality in all phases: running, receiving and blocking.

Durable with the key skill of being available/relatively healthy

Chris Meck · 03-28-2025, 12:49 PM

Well, something else I've thought about often over the years.

Yeah, the smaller guys with less mass run the 40 fast as hell in shorts. And pads and helmets are all lighter than they used to be, but I think it's still different to be fast in full game gear.

Skattebo seems like a better version of 2017 Kareem Hunt. He's fast ENOUGH. Elite contact balance. Does all of the things. I'm warming up to him.

CatfishBob2 · 03-28-2025, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck

Well, something else I've thought about often over the years.

Yeah, the smaller guys with less mass run the 40 fast as hell in shorts. And pads and helmets are all lighter than they used to be, but I think it's still different to be fast in full game gear.

Skattebo seems like a better version of 2017 Kareem Hunt. He's fast ENOUGH. Elite contact balance. Does all of the things. I'm warming up to him.

He does remind me of Kareem....ALOT.... but pump the brakes a little. Kareem was bigger and just as nasty if not more than this guy.
I still feel the same about him. Wouldn't be upset if he was the guy around the 3rd

TomBarndtsTwin · 03-28-2025, 01:31 PM

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I think that's what they signed Mitchell for

But overall, all any of the signings at any position do is allow for BPA. No need to reach anywhere.

A bit risky to rely on a guy who's missed 60% of his NFL career so far due to injury.

Not saying that makes Smith a necessary solution, just that I would be looking at other options if I was the Chiefs.

And Mitchell doesn't offer anything at returner like Smith would.

Just something to consider (and would hope the Chiefs would).

Snerd · 03-28-2025, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SAGA45

Jeanty...SHEESH

And Judkins stands out for the opposite reason.

Chris Meck · 03-28-2025, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin

A bit risky to rely on a guy who's missed 60% of his NFL career so far due to injury.

Not saying that makes Smith a necessary solution, just that I would be looking at other options if I was the Chiefs.

And Mitchell doesn't offer anything at returner like Smith would.

Just something to consider (and would hope the Chiefs would).

Smith? Who's Smith?

My point was that the off-season signings would appear to make any reaching unnecessary. As in, we don't HAVE to take anyone in any round.

That also means we can TAKE anyone anywhere we want.

Chris Meck · 03-28-2025, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by CatfishBob2

He does remind me of Kareem....ALOT.... but pump the brakes a little. Kareem was bigger and just as nasty if not more than this guy.
I still feel the same about him. Wouldn't be upset if he was the guy around the 3rd

He's NOT bigger. They're actually near EXACTLY the same size.

Hunt played at Toledo. Not quite big time football.

Skattebo is a better prospect.

And I loved Kareem Hunt in his first two seasons. At this point, he's replacement level.

staylor26 · 03-28-2025, 05:09 PM

At this point, I'm willing to bet the house that the Chiefs end up with one of Henderson, Judkins, Skattebo, or Martinez.

Chris Meck · 03-28-2025, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

At this point, I'm willing to bet the house that the Chiefs end up with one of Henderson, Judkins, Skattebo, or Martinez.

Add Harvey and Tuten to that list and I agree.

**Tribal Warfare** · 03-28-2025, 08:34 PM

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Add Harvey and Tuten to that list and I agree.

Tutten is a definite target if you go by Veach's draft analytics post CEH. If anything Veach will attempt to get the top speed score player if it's in the value area of 4th round and after.

**SAGA45** · 03-28-2025, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by CatfishBob2

He does remind me of Kareem....ALOT.... but pump the brakes a little. Kareem was bigger and just as nasty if not more than this guy.
I still feel the same about him. Wouldn't be upset if he was the guy around the 3rd

One guy that reminds me of Kareem is Jordan James

10 lbs lighter but same tenacity. Love 'im

RunKC · 03-29-2025, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

At this point, I'm willing to bet the house that the Chiefs end up with one of Henderson, Judkins, Skattebo, or Martinez.

Ollie Gordon is a wildcard here. Lead CFB in rushing and had 21 TD’s in 2023. If he came out last year he would have been a top 100 pick easy.

Oklahoma State had a lot of changes that hurt him in 2024 and he still had a decent year. Still think he’s a great value on day 3.

**Bowser** · 03-29-2025, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Ollie Gordon is a wildcard here. Lead CFB in rushing and had 21 TD’s in 2023. If he came out last year he would have been a top 100 pick easy.

Oklahoma State had a lot of changes that hurt him in 2024 and he still had a decent year. Still think he’s a great value on day 3.

Feels like he had a ton of early momentum, but talk has gone a little quiet for him in recent weeks.

Weigh him against our current RB room. Does he fit in, or is he a redundant player considering what Mitchell and Hunt bring to the table? Genuinely curious; I know next to nothing about OGII.

Dunerdr · 03-30-2025, 12:05 PM

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Feels like he had a ton of early momentum, but talk has gone a little quiet for him in recent weeks.

Weigh him against our current RB room. Does he fit in, or is he a redundant player considering what Mitchell and Hunt bring to the table? Genuinely curious; I know next to nothing about OGII.

Only guys with access to his pro days and workouts will really know. He got the dui last offseason, was kind of known locally as a partier and put on the negative weight. I’m an okstate institute of tech alum. I follow them. And honestly Gundy the HC has looked uninterested the last few years. Seemed like he was hanging out to keep his son in the program then gonna bail. Now they’ve re worked his deal with an option to get him out. He doesn’t seem like the kind of guy who connects with his kids anymore. Kind of felt like he lost the team and the son may have had something to do with that even though he really didn’t play.

Chris Meck · 03-30-2025, 08:55 PM

Starting to get onboard with Damien Martinez too.

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