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Old 03-26-2012, 02:40 PM  
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Peyton “looked real good” throwing to new Broncos teammates

Peyton “looked real good” throwing to new Broncos teammates
Posted by Michael David Smith on March 26, 2012, 3:53 PM EDT


As he settles in with the Broncos, Peyton Manning is learning the rules of the new Collective Bargaining Agreement, including that he can work out with teammates, but only away from the team’s facilities and outside the watchful eyes of the coaches. And that’s exactly what Manning did today.

Lindsay H. Jones of the Denver Post reports that Manning took snaps from center J.D. Walton and threw passes to wide receiver Eric Decker and tight end Julius Thomas during a session at a Denver-area high school, and afterward Decker said he liked what he saw.

“He looked real good, though he probably won’t admit that he’s feeling good or feeling back to the way he wants to be,” Decker said.

Decker said Manning is trying to get comfortable with his new teammates now, and that the players who were on the roster last year are talking to him about the offensive concepts the Broncos employed — even though the offense will be quite a bit different with Manning running it in 2012.

“Just some drill work, talking through stuff, so he gets familiar with the verbage and the calls,” Decker said. “The biggest thing is he wanted to get a feel for us, and a feel for being under center.”

The Denver Post published 23 photos from today’s session. To the extent that you can tell anything from a still photo of a guy throwing a pass in sweats and a T-shirt, Manning looks pretty much like he has always looked.

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He looks pretty thin to me...not that I've looked at any comparison pictures.
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Old 07-27-2012, 12:31 AM   #286
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You guys aren't a better team than you were two years ago. You are pretty much the exact same team.

Denver OTOH has improved greatly on the OL, DL, CB, QB, TE, S, and RB spots.
What? You don't think Jonathan Baldwin and Justin Houston are the second coming of Moss and Merriman?
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Old 07-27-2012, 12:37 AM   #287
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What? You don't think Jonathan Baldwin and Justin Houston are the second coming of Moss and Merriman?
It is kind of crazy how the Chiefs haven't improved at all in two years. The only area I can honestly say the Chiefs have improved is on the OL, because of Winston.
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Old 07-27-2012, 12:43 AM   #288
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It is kind of crazy how the Chiefs haven't improved at all in two years. The only area I can honestly say the Chiefs have improved is on the OL, because of Winston.


if you'd made the moves we've made, you'd be shitting your pants with delight.
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He looks like he could still swing the ball as long as he doesn't get hit. Tamba gonna smash that fool!!! The Joe Montana experiment part II.
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if you'd made the moves we've made, you'd be shitting your pants with delight.
What moves?

Who have you brought in that makes your team significantly better than it was in 2010?

The only difference between the 2010 Chiefs and the 2012 Chiefs in my eyes is that three of your best players are now coming off ACL tears.
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What moves?

Who have you brought in that makes your team significantly better than it was in 2010?

The only difference between the 2010 Chiefs and the 2012 Chiefs in my eyes is that three of your best players are now coming off ACL tears.
justin houston, relieving pressure on hali by giving us a complementary pass-rusher

jon baldwin. you know, the rich man's demaryius thomas

eric winston for obvious reasons.

rodney hudson. you know, just possibly will shields v 2.0

dontari poe/jerrell powe. one of them will be a dominant NT, ya know

stanford routt. return him to a scheme that maximizes his talent.

allen bailey, the d-line depth you guys would cream your pants for.

ricky stanzi. you'll be WISHING you had stanzi in less than two years.

shane bannon. white fullbacks don't grow on trees, man. NOT ON TREES!

devon wylie. THE NEXT AND CURRENT WES WELKER

cyrus gray: BETTER THAN ANY OF YOUR RBS

choke on it, doucher. (and yes, this was the homer/smartass version of a knowmo post)
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But seriously, are the Chiefs a better team right now than they were in 2010?

I'm not trolling. I don't think they are. They had Weis, Crennel, and Haley in 2010 and have Crennel and Daboll now.

The Chiefs are better at WR now with Breaston but I'm not sold on Baldwin.

The Chiefs are better at RT but have a lot of young guys on the interior of the OL.

The defense is pretty much the same minus Carr...

I don't see a significant improvement. I see the same team.
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Manning: He looks fantastic. I don't know what the complaints about him are or were, but his throws had zip, were on time and accurate. I counting three throws that were off. One was a little behind the receiver, one was an overthrow on an out to the running back, and the two others were a bit low.

I should point out again I didn't see every throw. I just saw four bad ones. There were an exceptionally large number of incredible ones. He checks down quickly. He looks players off and makes throws with his peripheral vision. His favorite targets are Tamme and Decker. More on those later. He stays in his pocket and steps into the rush to plant and make the throw. Manning is as advertised, or many NOT as advertised since all I've heard is he's weak, rusty and one hit from being a headless corpse. It was so weird seeing him under center. He made some really great throws.
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But seriously, are the Chiefs a better team right now than they were in 2010?

I'm not trolling. I don't think they are. They had Weis, Crennel, and Haley in 2010 and have Crennel and Daboll now.

The Chiefs are better at WR now with Breaston but I'm not sold on Baldwin.

The Chiefs are better at RT but have a lot of young guys on the interior of the OL.

The defense is pretty much the same minus Carr...

I don't see a significant improvement. I see the same team.
Its understandable that you dont really have a good grasp on the chiefs.


I would argue that we are better at every single position. Not just through the adding of talent through free agency and the draft, but the development of our current players.
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Its understandable that you dont really have a good grasp on the chiefs.


I would argue that we are better at every single position. Not just through the adding of talent through free agency and the draft, but the development of our current players.
You would know better than I would.

From the outside looking in, the Chiefs look the same to me.
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You would know better than I would.

From the outside looking in, the Chiefs look the same to me.
This team is far deeper and improved from the 2010 team. The only dropoff from 10 I would consider is the Carr/Routt. Which players from 10 would you put on this team now that would actually improve the talent? Starters or bench. Chris Chambers? Mike Vrabel? Ron Edwards? Tim Castile? Alex Magee??
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But seriously, are the Chiefs a better team right now than they were in 2010?
I think they are, but not by much

They lost their starting center and playing a rookie there that has absolutey zero experience snapping balls in the NFL

They have a new OC- one that might possibly be as bad in his job as Cassell is, if that were ever possible

New HC

They lost Eric Carr and replaced him with the lead league penalty CB

Nobody knows exactly how well Charles is recovering-it appears Berry is on a faster recovering track than Charles

But as was mentioned before- The Chiefs defense was actually better last year when Berry was out than it was when he was playing in 2010

Much tougher schedule

To many question marks on the coaching staff

And finally

Matt Cassell -

I'd be surprised if the Chiefs won 2 of their 1st 6 games- that's a brutal 6 game stretch- I think the writers of KC will go to town on that team by week 7.. calling for Stanzi, is Crennell "over his head"?? etc.. they'll have a field day with the Chiefs in the press and it might take the wind outta that team by week 7 to effectively rebound by then

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Manning: He looks fantastic. I don't know what the complaints about him are or were, but his throws had zip, were on time and accurate. I counting three throws that were off. One was a little behind the receiver, one was an overthrow on an out to the running back, and the two others were a bit low.

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Thats not difficult to accomplish when it's 7 on 7 drills and theres no pressure coming at him and he has all day to throw

3rd string QB's look great in those drills
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I think they are, but not by much

They lost their starting center and playing a rookie there that has absolutey zero experience snapping balls in the NFL

They have a new OC- one that might possibly be as bad in his job as Cassell is, if that were ever possible

New HC

They lost Eric Carr and replaced him with the lead league penalty CB

Nobody knows exactly how well Charles is recovering-it appears Berry is on a faster recovering track than Charles

But as was mentioned before- The Chiefs defense was actually better last year when Berry was out than it was when he was playing in 2010

Much tougher schedule

To many question marks on the coaching staff

And finally

Matt Cassell -

I'd be surprised if the Chiefs won 2 of their 1st 6 games- that's a brutal 6 game stretch- I think the writers of KC will go to town on that team by week 7.. calling for Stanzi, is Crennell "over his head"?? etc.. they'll have a field day with the Chiefs in the press and it might take the wind outta that team by week 7 to effectively rebound by then

1-5 heading into the bye
You've got to be kidding me. Eric Carr... Is he some 3rd stringer I forgot about?
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But seriously, are the Chiefs a better team right now than they were in 2010?

I'm not trolling. I don't think they are. They had Weis, Crennel, and Haley in 2010 and have Crennel and Daboll now.

The Chiefs are better at WR now with Breaston but I'm not sold on Baldwin.

The Chiefs are better at RT but have a lot of young guys on the interior of the OL.

The defense is pretty much the same minus Carr...

I don't see a significant improvement. I see the same team.






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